SF HW Title not on the line in tourney

People were talking shit here just last week about the title being on the line and the possibility of Reem losing it in the first round.

How does it make more sense, 1 Title defense in 3 years, and they had a #1 contender setup, and he's fighting the Champ, but the belt isn't on the line.....makes no sense.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

agreed. But for SF it may make more sense, as it extends the tournament another fight. As for the argument 'WELL WHAT IF REEM WINS??!!!/1" nothing changes then, and it would be like it would have been otherwise.

Well if Reem wins his title finally has meaning for the first time.

I agree this makes less sense. SF, like the UFC, isn't perfect.

LA wrote:

How does it make more sense, 1 Title defense in 3 years, and they had a #1 contender setup, and he's fighting the Champ, but the belt isn't on the line.....makes no sense.

The fights themselves still make sense. The title not being on the line is the only issue. But the fights themselves, make perfect sense in the current order they have setup.

OU wrote:

LA wrote:

How does it make more sense, 1 Title defense in 3 years, and they had a #1 contender setup, and he's fighting the Champ, but the belt isn't on the line.....makes no sense.

The fights themselves still make sense. The title not being on the line is the only issue. But the fights themselves, make perfect sense in the current order they have setup.

They do in the context of earned places in the divisonal hierarchy, but wiothout the Title, whats the point for the fighters who earned Title shots? The "Prix" winner earns a Title shot, so stack one side with the more deserving guys? give them a tougher route to a Title shot they already earned?

For SF and MMA, I hope Fedor wins it, but beats Reem in a really close fight in the 2nd Rd setting up a huge rematch for the Title.

This is what SF is banking on. For them, it makes more sense because no matter how it unfolds there is a tournament fight after the tournament. All the while reengaging the debate back toward the tournament with fans after brock jds debate stole the show.

LA wrote:

For SF and MMA, I hope Fedor wins it, but beats Reem in a really close fight in the 2nd Rd setting up a huge rematch for the Title.

Fedor is still the best HW in the world IMO. A good number of people on here think both Reem and Cain would beat him. I for one think Fedor owns them both.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Primetyme199 wrote:

There is no true lineal champion . I know the progression was on here at one point but if the lineal championship is fought for and won with a certain set of rules. The rules are different in the next promotion the guy goes to and loses. He didn't really lose that lineal title since it's not the rules it was won under. Your changing the way a fighter has to fight making things illegal that were perfectly fine or vice versa, so in essence under a completly different ruleset it's a different title because it's a different fight entirely.

SC Michaelson tried this and got destroyed. Boxing lineal titles go through a tremendous amount of rule changes. So do pro-wrestling lineal titles. So have other promotional MMA titles.

The rules may change in boxing but all the organizations follow the same set of rules. The WBA, IBF, WBC, WBO all have the same rules they don't differ from one another. It's like Top Rank having to follow one set of rules when they fight and Golden Boy has a different set of rules. That's not how it is in boxing they all follow the same ruleset. As far as pro-wrestling your joking right? It's a staged pre-dermined show you can't even put that anywhere near boxing or mma in that respect.

OU wrote:

LA wrote:

For SF and MMA, I hope Fedor wins it, but beats Reem in a really close fight in the 2nd Rd setting up a huge rematch for the Title.

Fedor is still the best HW in the world IMO. A good number of people on here think both Reem and Cain would beat him. I for one think Fedor owns them both.

Dido

Wolfgangsta wrote:

This is what SF is banking on. For them, it makes more sense because no matter how it unfolds there is a tournament fight after the tournament. All the while reengaging the debate back toward the tournament with fans after brock jds debate stole the show.

The attention the Prix will get after this news will mostly be negative., or disappointment for a less strong word.

But that's a perfect case scenario, if Reems wins the Prix then wo does he fight?

Oh and great fucking point Prime, never even thought of that angle, surprised I missed that.

OU wrote:

LA wrote:

For SF and MMA, I hope Fedor wins it, but beats Reem in a really close fight in the 2nd Rd setting up a huge rematch for the Title.

Fedor is still the best HW in the world IMO. A good number of people on here think both Reem and Cain would beat him. I for one think Fedor owns them both.

If someone thinks he is I have no problem with that, I have Cain as the best right now, in "Who beats Who" who knows, wish we could find out...

You can link MMA and pro-wrestling for a myrad of reasons but I see your point on that and won't press that issue, but the lineal title in boxing traces back through tons of rule changes, glove sizes, number of rounds, ring sizes, weight cutting rules, weight class rules, standing eight counts, number of knockdowns, scoring criteria, who scores the fights, commission changes and any number of other rule changes. Further, promotional titles have endured through major rule changes such as the adoption of the unified rules. Same sport. Same pro record on fight finder. Argument holds no water.

If stomps were legal would Fedor have been subbed after he knocked Werdum down?

The pro wrestling angle of lineal was ceremonial not practical, yet it was important as it gets from the business perspective during the Monday night wars. Which is a important consideration when crossed over to a real competitive sport.

Like I mentioned in my piece on the front page, protecting the lineal WWE title is what caused the Montreal Screwjob.

Well that kind of sucks. Agreed that the seeding now makes little sense, if any at all

omg lineal titles

What is he smiling at, what is going on under the Jersey Shore stamp

Vaginal exposure

that's it? for a douche who sees an awful lot of busted box that's quite the cheese

He met that chick an hour early

Wolfgangsta wrote:

that's it? for a douche who sees an awful lot of busted box that's quite the cheese

It was the first day in the house. The new girl was showing him something and not knowingly dropped her bottom. So he was a little shocked and she had no idea.

Bobbit, OU, LA Jersey shore chat tonight, JK