SF HW Title not on the line in tourney

LA wrote:

People just don't seem to get some aren't believers in the whole lineal Title thing, if Fedor beats Silva and Reem he moves to #1 for me without a Title, it's all about wins and how you're fighting, that's all that matters.

You say stupid things daily, but this is still note worthy. Of course we get some don't believe in the lineal title. What those people don't seem to get is that others do.

Because Cain is a great fighter. Rankings are rankings only. Why was Cain ranked ahead of Lesnar when Lesnar was the champ?

LA wrote:

Tell me why Cain is ranked 1 everywhere then and has a belt to boot.

Tell my Fedor was ranked #1 at one point in time but didn't have the same belt you are referring too? For years Fedor was ranked #1 and not in possesion of the belt you are talking about.

GDPofDRC wrote:

Because Cain is a great fighter. Rankings are rankings only. Why was Cain ranked ahead of Lesnar when Lesnar was the champ?

He wasn't, Brock was 1 everywhere

No he wasn't

OU wrote:

LA wrote:

Tell me why Cain is ranked 1 everywhere then and has a belt to boot.

Tell me why Fedor was ranked #1 at one point in time but didn't have the same belt you are referring too? For years Fedor was ranked #1 and not in possesion of the belt you are talking about.

what about this?

OU wrote:

LA wrote:

Tell me why Cain is ranked 1 everywhere then and has a belt to boot.

Tell my Fedor was ranked #1 at one point in time but didn't have the same belt you are referring too? For years Fedor was ranked #1 and not in possesion of the belt you are talking about.

You didn't get that, "the belt to boot", the quality of his wins and how he is fighting (my post above) are the reason he is ranked 1, as was Fedor when he was 1.

I just wanted the SF HW belt to be on the line, this brings me down. I don't like that if Reem gets beat by someone, he would still be holding the belt in their rematch after the tourney. So whats the fucking point of the tourney? To create a contender? You already had a fucking contender.

I knew they're would be rematchs based of the tourney but I just feel like the tourney meant more with 5 round fights and the belt being on the line.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

LA wrote:

People just don't seem to get some aren't believers in the whole lineal Title thing, if Fedor beats Silva and Reem he moves to #1 for me without a Title, it's all about wins and how you're fighting, that's all that matters.

You say stupid things daily, but this is still note worthy. Of course we get some don't believe in the lineal title. What those people don't seem to get is that others do.

Stupid things dailey? LOL, u are a moron, shut up already.

"Prix"

The lineal title means a lot less now but it does matter to some fans and will always be a point of contention until it returns to the UFC. This is the reality of life. Whether or not you want to waste your breath trying to convince people it doesn't really exist is up to you LA.

MMAEYES wrote:

I just wanted the SF HW belt to be on the line, this brings me down. I don't like that if Reem gets beat by someone, he would still be holding the belt in their rematch after the tourney. So whats the fucking point of the tourney? To create a contender? You already had a fucking contender.

I knew they're would be rematchs based of the tourney but I just feel like the tourney meant more with 5 round fights and the belt being on the line.

+1

It makes the tournament follow the Pride format more closely(which it got flack for not following in other ways)

Like when Wandy lost to Arona in a tournament fight and fought him in a title fight immediately after.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

The lineal title means a lot less now but it does matter to some fans and will always be a point of contention until it returns to the UFC. This is the reality of life. Whether or not you want to waste your breath trying to convince people it doesn't really exist is up to you LA.

I'm gonna respond with my thoughts when having to read about it all the time from the same posters too.

Edited posts, ut ho maybe time to talk to Ninja...

this is fun

What if Reem was beat in the first round? You still think he should be facing the tourney winner as the champ? Even if he didn't make it out of the first round(not that I think this would happen)

You edit other posts, goose gander effect. Relax princess.

It's not ideal MMAeyes for me but its still a good event.

There is no true lineal champion . I know the progression was on here at one point but if the lineal championship is fought for and won with a certain set of rules. The rules are different in the next promotion the guy goes to and loses. He didn't really lose that lineal title since it's not the rules it was won under. Your changing the way a fighter has to fight making things illegal that were perfectly fine or vice versa, so in essence under a completly different ruleset it's a different title because it's a different fight entirely.

MMAEYES wrote:

What if Reem was beat in the first round? You still think he should be facing the tourney winner as the champ? Even if he didn't make it out of the first round(not that I think this would happen)

Lot of questions like this present themselves, they'd be better off just setting the fights up as is, Reem/Werdum for the Title, Fedor/Silva next shot, and the other side playing out for next shot, and dropping the "Prix".

Wolfgangsta wrote:

You edit other posts, goose gander effect. Relax princess.

Um no I didn't, only when me and some guys are messing around with eachother, different., Relax Freak.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

It's not ideal MMAeyes for me but its still a good event.

The fights were never not great, but now doing all this makes even less sense.

Primetyme199 wrote:

There is no true lineal champion . I know the progression was on here at one point but if the lineal championship is fought for and won with a certain set of rules. The rules are different in the next promotion the guy goes to and loses. He didn't really lose that lineal title since it's not the rules it was won under. Your changing the way a fighter has to fight making things illegal that were perfectly fine or vice versa, so in essence under a completly different ruleset it's a different title because it's a different fight entirely.

SC Michaelson tried this and got destroyed. Boxing lineal titles go through a tremendous amount of rule changes. So do pro-wrestling lineal titles. So have other promotional MMA titles.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

It's not ideal MMAeyes for me but its still a good event.

Right it is but I think they shot themselves in the foot with this no title on the line crap. It could turn out bad this way where as I could see no wrong in it before.

agreed. But for SF it may make more sense, as it extends the tournament another fight. As for the argument 'WELL WHAT IF REEM WINS??!!!/1" nothing changes then, and it would be like it would have been otherwise.