| Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano | |
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Who wins? | Lennox Lewis | | 74% | [ 17 ] | Rocky Marciano | | 26% | [ 6 ] |
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| Subject: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:04 pm | |
| 12 rd fight. Both are motivated and fight to their limits. Who wins? |
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Diego408 Green Belt
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:05 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:06 pm | |
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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:09 pm | |
| Lennox better not get hit. | |
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:29 pm | |
| Marciano wouldn't reach him. |
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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:43 pm | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- Marciano wouldn't reach him.
And you say that based on Marciano always getting to everyone or Lennox never getting hit by anyone? | |
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:47 pm | |
| On the basis that Lewis was a smart fighter and that he would outsmart Marciano. Who did you vote for Marble? |
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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:51 pm | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- On the basis that Lewis was a smart fighter and that he would outsmart Marciano. Who did you vote for Marble?
Lewis was SMARTER???????????????????? The guy who couldn't figure out how to outjab Evander or avoid Rahman or McCall was SMARTER??????????? WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Watch Marciano track down Walcott or figuire out how to get Ezzard out when he has one round to do so or watch him figure out how to get rid of Harry Matthews. Lewis has a bunch of advantages here, but ring smarts is NOT one of them. | |
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:53 pm | |
| He wasn't motivated in his 2 losses. Those fights were lost before the fight even started. So who did you vote for? |
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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:56 pm | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- He wasn't motivated in his 2 losses. Those fights were lost before the fight even started. So who did you vote for?
OK, so Lennox is extraordinarily vulnerable in a second way. He isn't even disciplined enough to always show up in top shape. Not something anyone ever accused Marciano of. I'm passing on the vote. | |
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:59 pm | |
| - marbleheadmaui wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- He wasn't motivated in his 2 losses. Those fights were lost before the fight even started. So who did you vote for?
OK, so Lennox is extraordinarily vulnerable in a second way. He isn't even disciplined enough to always show up in top shape. Not something anyone ever accused Marciano of.
I'm passing on the vote. Why? so you don't get ridiculed for voting Marciano? Anyway, the question I was asking was if both fought their best not for their whole career. The Lewis that lost has nothing to do with this fight as he wasn't at his best then. |
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KrazyHorseBennett Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:01 am | |
| Here is the formula.
Fighter from the 50's or before can only be beaten by one of his fellow superhumans from the 50's or before.
DUHHHHHHHH. How do we not know this by now, people? | |
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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:02 am | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- marbleheadmaui wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- He wasn't motivated in his 2 losses. Those fights were lost before the fight even started. So who did you vote for?
OK, so Lennox is extraordinarily vulnerable in a second way. He isn't even disciplined enough to always show up in top shape. Not something anyone ever accused Marciano of.
I'm passing on the vote. Why? so you don't get ridiculed for voting Marciano? Anyway, the question I was asking was if both fought their best not for their whole career. The Lewis that lost has nothing to do with this fight as he wasn't at his best then. LOL, yeah being ridiculed by anonymous interweb dudes is really troubling. What are you six years old? I don't vote on things like this because the concept carries no weight. Lewis is more vulnerable to big punchers than any othe heavyweight champion excpet maybe Floyd Patterson. | |
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:04 am | |
| - KrazyHorseBennett wrote:
- Here is the formula.
Fighter from the 50's or before can only be beaten by one of his fellow superhumans from the 50's or before.
DUHHHHHHHH. How do we not know this by now, people? Lol. Totally agree. |
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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:04 am | |
| - KrazyHorseBennett wrote:
- Here is the formula.
Fighter from the 50's or before can only be beaten by one of his fellow superhumans from the 50's or before.
DUHHHHHHHH. How do we not know this by now, people? That's just dumb. Foreman beats Rocky, so does Ali and Frazioer and Evander are both bloodbaths that I can't really pick. I said last week so does Riddick Bowe in my view. But the Lewis who was KO'd by Rahman and McCall? That's not nearly as obvious. | |
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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:05 am | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- marbleheadmaui wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- He wasn't motivated in his 2 losses. Those fights were lost before the fight even started. So who did you vote for?
OK, so Lennox is extraordinarily vulnerable in a second way. He isn't even disciplined enough to always show up in top shape. Not something anyone ever accused Marciano of.
I'm passing on the vote. Why? so you don't get ridiculed for voting Marciano? Anyway, the question I was asking was if both fought their best not for their whole career. The Lewis that lost has nothing to do with this fight as he wasn't at his best then. BTW, you think you can train a chin? How exactly does one do that? | |
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KrazyHorseBennett Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:06 am | |
| - marbleheadmaui wrote:
- KrazyHorseBennett wrote:
- Here is the formula.
Fighter from the 50's or before can only be beaten by one of his fellow superhumans from the 50's or before.
DUHHHHHHHH. How do we not know this by now, people? That's just dumb. Foreman beats Rocky, so does Ali and Frazioer and Evander are both bloodbaths that I can't really pick. I said last week so does Riddick Bowe in my view. But the Lewis who was KO'd by Rahman and McCall?
That's not nearly as obvious. Dude, I'm just poking the bear with a stick. | |
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:07 am | |
| - marbleheadmaui wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- marbleheadmaui wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- He wasn't motivated in his 2 losses. Those fights were lost before the fight even started. So who did you vote for?
OK, so Lennox is extraordinarily vulnerable in a second way. He isn't even disciplined enough to always show up in top shape. Not something anyone ever accused Marciano of.
I'm passing on the vote. Why? so you don't get ridiculed for voting Marciano? Anyway, the question I was asking was if both fought their best not for their whole career. The Lewis that lost has nothing to do with this fight as he wasn't at his best then. LOL, yeah being ridiculed by anonymous interweb dudes is really troubling. What are you six years old?
I don't vote on things like this because the concept carries no weight.
Lewis is more vulnerable to big punchers than any othe heavyweight champion excpet maybe Floyd Patterson. You make a topic saying that Riddick Bowe on his day was almost unstoppable yet you play down Lewis. Bowe was too terrified to face Lewis. |
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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:08 am | |
| - KrazyHorseBennett wrote:
- marbleheadmaui wrote:
- KrazyHorseBennett wrote:
- Here is the formula.
Fighter from the 50's or before can only be beaten by one of his fellow superhumans from the 50's or before.
DUHHHHHHHH. How do we not know this by now, people? That's just dumb. Foreman beats Rocky, so does Ali and Frazioer and Evander are both bloodbaths that I can't really pick. I said last week so does Riddick Bowe in my view. But the Lewis who was KO'd by Rahman and McCall?
That's not nearly as obvious. Dude, I'm just poking the bear with a stick. You were right though. |
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dmar5143 Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:08 am | |
| lets see its a 15 round fight first not a sissy 12 rounder..a guy with a weak chin fighting a guy with a great chin who hits harder then anyone lewis ever fought..a guy with unlimted endurance and stanima against a guy who tires.a guy who overcomes adverse times against a guy who did not..a great finisher with ring smarts against a cautious fighter..ill agree with carmen basilio when asked that same question..he said rocky would look like a midget today but hed still clobber them all...you can take the stats.the stuff you measure like reach height weight and shove them.ill take what you cant measure.heart courage stanima conditioning will to win confidence determination ..you can measure to a certain degree non stop punching leverage and power..rockys punch was measured..it had enough energy to deadlift over 1000 pounds one foot off the ground with one hand..you try deadlifting 600 pounds with both hands to the knees.about 18 inches.bet you cant .. i find it most interesting that on boards like this and others rocky never wins a fantasy fight..if joe louis were alive today hed laugh in your faces on this question.. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:11 am | |
| Lennox Lewis kicks Marciano's ass, gives him a boxing lesson and may even drop him
and then somewhere in the fight Lennox's back touches the ropes, the right hand lands and its all over
Marciano knockout | |
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KrazyHorseBennett Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:12 am | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- marbleheadmaui wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- marbleheadmaui wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- He wasn't motivated in his 2 losses. Those fights were lost before the fight even started. So who did you vote for?
OK, so Lennox is extraordinarily vulnerable in a second way. He isn't even disciplined enough to always show up in top shape. Not something anyone ever accused Marciano of.
I'm passing on the vote. Why? so you don't get ridiculed for voting Marciano? Anyway, the question I was asking was if both fought their best not for their whole career. The Lewis that lost has nothing to do with this fight as he wasn't at his best then. LOL, yeah being ridiculed by anonymous interweb dudes is really troubling. What are you six years old?
I don't vote on things like this because the concept carries no weight.
Lewis is more vulnerable to big punchers than any othe heavyweight champion excpet maybe Floyd Patterson. You make a topic saying that Riddick Bowe on his day was almost unstoppable yet you play down Lewis. Bowe was too terrified to face Lewis. I don't believe that Bowe feared Lewis. I believe Rock Newman was to blame for all of that trashcan business. I honestly believe Newman thought he was building the fight, down the road, to become 10x bigger than it would have been. His relative inexperience in the sport showed that things rarely go according to plan when your plans are for the long-term. You have to strike when the iron is hot. | |
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:15 am | |
| Everyone knows Bowe ducked him. He even relinquished the title. Lewis had already beaten him in the Olympics and would've done the same as a pro. |
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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
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| Subject: Re: Prime Lennox Lewis vs Prime Rocky Marciano Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:16 am | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- marbleheadmaui wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- marbleheadmaui wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- He wasn't motivated in his 2 losses. Those fights were lost before the fight even started. So who did you vote for?
OK, so Lennox is extraordinarily vulnerable in a second way. He isn't even disciplined enough to always show up in top shape. Not something anyone ever accused Marciano of.
I'm passing on the vote. Why? so you don't get ridiculed for voting Marciano? Anyway, the question I was asking was if both fought their best not for their whole career. The Lewis that lost has nothing to do with this fight as he wasn't at his best then. LOL, yeah being ridiculed by anonymous interweb dudes is really troubling. What are you six years old?
I don't vote on things like this because the concept carries no weight.
Lewis is more vulnerable to big punchers than any othe heavyweight champion excpet maybe Floyd Patterson. You make a topic saying that Riddick Bowe on his day was almost unstoppable yet you play down Lewis. Bowe was too terrified to face Lewis. Almost unstoppable? Really? That's what I said????????? Good luck finding that quote. I think what I said was Riddick on his best night was "a full load" or f"ormidable." I also said that even on that night there were 5-6 guys who beat him and another 4-5 IIRC where an argument could be made. Read much? As for playing down Lewis I am simply stating a fact. He's the only heavy we term "great" who was KO'd in his prime by two different mediocrities. Given that a chin is what it is, that leads me to surmise that he was nearly uniquely vulnerable among "great" heavyweights. I look forward to you arguing 1) Other "great" heavies were KO'd by two different medicroties while in their prime; or 2) That a chin is not what it is and can be trained and therefore those outcomes are not indicative of vulnerability | |
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