Transgender fighter Fallon Fox's MMA license under review

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

For some reason I knew I would get a shout out on this subject. That said, I agree with freak and gdp. I wonder what it's vagina feels like? Does it produce its own fluid like a regular vagina or do you bring lube? I have a lot of questions right now.

I never said I was for it. But there is a reason why they are looking into this and not just saying "aww hell naw, you had a penis! GTFO of here! Fight a man you pussy!".

Are we talking about Fallon Fox or maybe theoretical outlier situations?

Tranny's don't have the operations at birth so why would they be treated as such?

GDPofDRC wrote:

Are we talking about Fallon Fox or maybe theatricals?

Which ever. I'm just saying just because this particular case may not be the best example since they spent many years as a male, there are situations that can and will come up in the future that will get much trickier. That's really the only point I'm trying to make. That and I don't think it's always cut and dry. Especially if the person spent their entire life living as a female. Then it becomes more complicated IMO.

freakzilla wrote:

Tranny's don't have the operations at birth so why would they be treated as such?

You are too close minded on these subjects. I bet your views on women and homosexuality are pretty extreme.

Tranny's don't have the operations at birth so why would they be treated as such?

GDPofDRC wrote:

Tranny's don't have the operations at birth so why would they be treated as such?

What do you mean? There aren't any trannys that have considered themselves female since birth? Lived there entire lives as a female.

Transexualism is about how a person identifies themselves, like a man who identifies himself sexually as a women, it might make them less of a man, but in no way a woman. We are talking about Fallon Fox, not hermaphrodites

OU wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

Tranny's don't have the operations at birth so why would they be treated as such?

What do you mean? There aren't any trannys that have considered themselves female since birth? Lived there entire lives as a female.

I could consider myself the flying bird man of Bali all my life, but I would still be a human man.

GDPofDRC wrote:

Transexualism is about how a person identifies themselves, like a man who identifies himself sexually as a women, it might make them less of a man, but in no way a woman. We are talking about Fallon Fox, not hermaphrodites

You don't have to be born with a vagina to have hormones like a woman and same goes for the reverse. Plenty of medical conditions that cause bizarre hormone levels. Check out this case. A woman, born all woman, but with male DNA.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MedicalMysteries/story?id=5465752&page=1

Quote :

Atwood is not a freak -- nor is she half-man, half-woman. But her DNA says she's a man. That's because she has male chromosomes, an X and a Y, instead of two Xs, like most females. It's a disorder of sexual development in the womb called Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, or AIS. It can be passed down through the mother or occur as a spontaneous mutation.
"There are probably about seven-and-a-half thousand people, women, in the U.S. with the condition," said Dr. Charmian Quigley, a pediatric endocrinologist.

Despite the male chromosomes, Quigley said, women with AIS are just that -- women.

"They have a vagina, like anybody else's," she said, "but it's basically just a pouch, it's not connected to a uterus. There is no uterus. But what they have internally is testes that you would typically find in a male."

GDPofDRC wrote:

OU wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

Tranny's don't have the operations at birth so why would they be treated as such?

What do you mean? There aren't any trannys that have considered themselves female since birth? Lived there entire lives as a female.

I could consider myself the flying bird man of Bali all my life, but I would still be a human man.

If you had DNA similar to birds you would have one bizarre case.

OU wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

Transexualism is about how a person identifies themselves, like a man who identifies himself sexually as a women, it might make them less of a man, but in no way a woman. We are talking about Fallon Fox, not hermaphrodites

You don't have to be born with a vagina to have hormones like a woman and same goes for the reverse. Plenty of medical conditions that cause bizarre hormone levels. Check out this case. A woman, born all woman, but with male DNA.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MedicalMysteries/story?id=5465752&page=1

Quote :

Atwood is not a freak -- nor is she half-man, half-woman. But her DNA says she's a man. That's because she has male chromosomes, an X and a Y, instead of two Xs, like most females. It's a disorder of sexual development in the womb called Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, or AIS. It can be passed down through the mother or occur as a spontaneous mutation.
"There are probably about seven-and-a-half thousand people, women, in the U.S. with the condition," said Dr. Charmian Quigley, a pediatric endocrinologist.

Despite the male chromosomes, Quigley said, women with AIS are just that -- women.

"They have a vagina, like anybody else's," she said, "but it's basically just a pouch, it's not connected to a uterus. There is no uterus. But what they have internally is testes that you would typically find in a male."

Is Fallon Fox a Woman to you?

GDPofDRC wrote:

OU wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

Transexualism is about how a person identifies themselves, like a man who identifies himself sexually as a women, it might make them less of a man, but in no way a woman. We are talking about Fallon Fox, not hermaphrodites

You don't have to be born with a vagina to have hormones like a woman and same goes for the reverse. Plenty of medical conditions that cause bizarre hormone levels. Check out this case. A woman, born all woman, but with male DNA.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MedicalMysteries/story?id=5465752&page=1

Quote :

Atwood is not a freak -- nor is she half-man, half-woman. But her DNA says she's a man. That's because she has male chromosomes, an X and a Y, instead of two Xs, like most females. It's a disorder of sexual development in the womb called Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, or AIS. It can be passed down through the mother or occur as a spontaneous mutation.
"There are probably about seven-and-a-half thousand people, women, in the U.S. with the condition," said Dr. Charmian Quigley, a pediatric endocrinologist.

Despite the male chromosomes, Quigley said, women with AIS are just that -- women.

"They have a vagina, like anybody else's," she said, "but it's basically just a pouch, it's not connected to a uterus. There is no uterus. But what they have internally is testes that you would typically find in a male."

Is Fallon Fox a Woman to you?

Right now? Kinda.

Because he wants to be or because he is?

easy way to solve this. Transgender mma league

GDPofDRC wrote:

Because he wants to be or because he is?

Because chemically and now physically she is more she then he. When she goes to a public restroom which one does she use? She took the extreme steps to make herself more woman then man. Expensive, painful and extreme steps. Who am I to judge though?

If you are born a girl you fight girls. If you are born a guy you fights guys. What is is so hard to understand? Now hermanphidites are a trickery topic to tackle.

Ninja wrote:

If you are born a girl you fight girls. If you are born a guy you fights guys. What is is so hard to understand? Now hermanphidites are a trickery topic to tackle.

I think there are more situations then just hermaphrodites that are tricky situations. Actually I'm sure of it. There are other medical conditions that result in bizarre and crazy hormones.
You guys are just a bunch of homophobic, god loving bigots! That's what's really wrong here.

Half this board would still fuck her. I know you guys would.

OU wrote:

Half this board would still fuck her. I know you guys would.

So really this is all about justification of you fapping to that pic of "it" huh....you sick bastard. I don't think anyone will have your back here. Well Ali will for damn sure but that guy would fuck an alligator if you thru a wig on it.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

Half this board would still fuck her. I know you guys would.

So really this is all about justification of you fapping to that pic of "it" huh....you sick bastard. I don't think anyone will have your back here. Well Ali will for damn sure but that guy would fuck an alligator if you thru a wig on it.

I didn't know when it I did it...so it was still a girl...right?...right? Oh well, I came, that's good enough.

Also I never said I approved so it's not like I'm arguing she should be allowed to fight.

Great movie, well played.

In MMA the only acceptable scenario should be:
XX vs XX
XY vs XY