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A female transgender MMA fighter is under investigation by the Florida State Boxing Commission.

"Our department is currently investigating allegations pertaining to the information provided on the application," said Sandi Copes Poreda, a spokeswoman for the commission, which licensed Fallon Fox to fight as a woman.

SI.com reported Monday that Fox, 37, had gender reassignment surgery in 2006 along with supplemental hormonal therapy.

Fox on Saturday knocked out a woman in 39 seconds in a fight in Coral Cables, Fla. As an amateur and a professional, Fox holds a 5-0 record, with all five wins coming in the first round.

On her fight license application, which was obtained by MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com), Fox said she had been licensed by the California State Athletic Commission, which likely helped procure a license in Florida. The California commission, however, said Fox's license, which was submitted in February and included medical documentation, was under review and not approved.

The Florida commission confirmed that Fox received a pregnancy test per commission rules but was not drug tested. Executive director Andy Foster said the California commission was in the process of changing its forms to eliminate confusion over a receipt (which reflects a $60 licensing fee) that he thought was interpreted by Fallon as a license. Fox told MMAjunkie.com that she didn't knowingly misrepresent herself to the Florida commission and thought she had been approved by California.

Fox's next bout, which was scheduled for April 20 as part of semifinals in an eight-woman tournament at 145 pounds, is on hold as her promoter, Championship Fighting Alliance, has canceled the event in a show of support.

"We stand 120,000 percent behind Fallon," Championship Fighting Alliance CEO Jorge De La Nova said. "She's a female. She's a very sweet girl. There's a lot of money on the line for her, and she's performed very well. We're going to give her a couple of weeks to see how this thing turns out."
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Reminds me of that situation with the sprinter not long ago. Caster Semenya was the name.

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Reminds me of that situation with the sprinter not long ago. Caster Semenya was the name.

Completely different situation. Caster Semenya was born with both. This fighter had surgery to change.
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I don't have much of a problem with transgenders selling cookies with actual girls, who even competing in beauty contests...but i think you should probably draw the line at one on one combat.

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Feed her/him to Cyborg.

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There have been some interesting debates on the interwebz about this. I wonder what her testosterone levels are compared to most female athletes. I bet it's lower then Cyborg and Brittney Griner. If her levels are low enough, is it fair?

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No it's not fair. You're born a male you compete against males. Born a female you compete against females. Born with both you compete against males or you don't compete.
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No it's not fair. You're born a male you compete against males. Born a female you compete against females. Born with both you compete against males or you don't compete.
That's your opinion.

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No it's not fair. You're born a male you compete against males. Born a female you compete against females. Born with both you compete against males or you don't compete.
That's your opinion.

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It's a debatable issue. Do you even have any interest in WMMA?

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That isn't WMMA. It's a tranny trying to beat up women.
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That isn't WMMA. It's a tranny trying to beat up women.
Funny how there is respectable debate going on right now on the web but you think you have it nailed down as something simple. Again, that's your opinion but it's a tricky subject. I think her current hormone levels are very important and it's not a cut and dry issue.

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So any guy with low level hormone levels can fight women? like Overeem after his last fight?
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They were born a fucking dude!
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So any guy with low level hormone levels can fight women? like Overeem after his last fight?
If he were to undergo surgery to have his manhood removed and get on female hormones for years then I think he/she could then get some consideration. Obviously there are more factors. People brought up how the Olympics have some rule where you have to be on female hormones for atleast 2 years. This chick has been on it for 7 years. It's more complex then you make it out IMO. But you are pretty close minded. There will be more cases like this in the future you can bet on that. With the rise of WMMA it's just a matter of time.

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Men fight men, women fight women, trannys fight trannys(men). Trannys shouldn't be fighting women professionally.

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Are u fucking serious with this post bro? ur a newbie to MMA compared to me, I watch all fights, but don't get a hard on unless guys are in the top 30.

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Men fight men, women fight women, trannys fight trannys. Trannys shouldn't be fighting women professionally.

Finally some common sense.
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Men fight men, women fight women, trannys fight trannys. Trannys shouldn't be fighting women professionally.

Finally some common sense.
I never said she should fight women. Just that it's and interesting situation that they obviously feel the need to look into. I'm sure there will be more cases in the future that are more in the gray area, actually I'm positive there will be.

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No tranny should ever fight a women.
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Bottom line, men have the XY chromosomes, women have the XX chromosomes, no amount of artificial drugging, physical mutilation or psychiatric therapy will change that for any of us, sorry BBC.

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No tranny should ever fight a women.
They already have and they will in the future. This isn't the last case like this, it's only the 1st public case. There will be many situations similar to this in the future, get use to it.

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Bottom line, men have the XY chromosomes, women have the XX chromosomes, no amount of artificial drugging, physical mutilation or psychiatric therapy will change that for any of us, sorry BBC.
I'm not so sure the commissions will ultimately agree with that. I can see a transsexual that was considered a women their entire life being in WMMA in the future.

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Why? A male who wants to be a female acts like one long enough and commission is just gonna be like, "well this dude has acted like a girl long enough, lets let him fight women." I'm doubtful, Florida of course being the exception.

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Why? A male who wants to be a female acts like one long enough and commission is just gonna be like, "well this dude has acted like a girl long enough, lets let him fight women." I'm doubtful, Florida of course being the exception.
The are a wide variety of scenarios and circumstances for transsexuals. What if they were treated as a woman from birth? What if their body chemistry is much closer to that of a female then a male? There is a reason why these things are treated as individual cases because there is a wide variety of factors and situations. I'm not saying I'm for it, but it's obviously a debate and something they are looking into and will continue to look into in the future.

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For some reason I knew I would get a shout out on this subject. That said, I agree with freak and gdp. I wonder what it's vagina feels like? Does it produce its own fluid like a regular vagina or do you bring lube? I have a lot of questions right now.
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