New Presidential Poll

OU wrote:

G.W. was underrated and over criticized. The "promises" and slogans that got Obama elected are what grind my gears.

While every president gets over criticized, Im not calling anyone who oversaw a major terrorist attack, a war based on false intelligence, a growing dept despite strong economic growth(which of coarse was built on shakey foundaton which led to), and a major economic collapse, underrated.

Ron Paul

captain organic wrote:

OU wrote:

G.W. was underrated and over criticized. The "promises" and slogans that got Obama elected are what grind my gears.

While every president gets over criticized, Im not calling anyone who oversaw a major terrorist attack, a war based on false intelligence, a growing dept despite strong economic growth(which of coarse was built on shakey foundaton which led to), and a major economic collapse, underrated.

could you criticize our current president cap?

Obama has done nothing but extend Bush's policies. There is really no difference. What changed besides even more debt, wars, loss of civil liberties?

And the fact is, the only candidate who represents REAL change of any kind is Ron Paul. That is why the establishment fears him. Big government wants to keep the status quo going even though it is not good for the american people and certainly not sustainable.

oggy420 wrote:

Obama has done nothing but extend Bush's policies. There is really no difference. What changed besides even more debt, wars, loss of civil liberties?

And the fact is, the only candidate who represents REAL change of any kind is Ron Paul. That is why the establishment fears him. Big government wants to keep the status quo going even though it is not good for the american people and certainly not sustainable.

Do you think if Paul gets elected he will be able to enact 'real' change?

Ziggy116 wrote:

oggy420 wrote:

Obama has done nothing but extend Bush's policies. There is really no difference. What changed besides even more debt, wars, loss of civil liberties?

And the fact is, the only candidate who represents REAL change of any kind is Ron Paul. That is why the establishment fears him. Big government wants to keep the status quo going even though it is not good for the american people and certainly not sustainable.

Do you think if Paul gets elected he will be able to enact 'real' change?

On certain things that the president has direct power over like the wars, yes. Other things will be tougher but i like Americas chances of getting back on track with Ron Paul as president far more than any of the other candidates.

Cu Bu wrote:

captain organic wrote:

OU wrote:

G.W. was underrated and over criticized. The "promises" and slogans that got Obama elected are what grind my gears.

While every president gets over criticized, Im not calling anyone who oversaw a major terrorist attack, a war based on false intelligence, a growing dept despite strong economic growth(which of coarse was built on shakey foundaton which led to), and a major economic collapse, underrated.

could you criticize our current president cap?

Sure, should have done more in terms of economic recovery right off the bat(infrastructure), and the stimulas package he did implement did not produce the results promised, taking the dept to even higher levels, not putting in better regulations on the banking industry.

Those are some obvious specifics.

In more general aspects, he gives too much in negotiations, should stick more to his principals.

And Paul is clearly the only guy promising real change.

Could he enact it? Well the fact that he has control over the military, which is one segment of the big 3 in terms of budget, I think he has a clear leg in in terms of reducing the countries dept problem. So with that alone, yeah he would bring change.

Ron Paul is literally less than 5 minutes from my house right now and I had no idea. Too bad, would've liked to have gone. Not a huge fan of attending rallies, but town hall's I can get down with. Went to one with under 50 people when Obama was running and it was pretty cool, pretty much everyone got at least one question.

oggy420 wrote:

Ziggy116 wrote:

oggy420 wrote:

Obama has done nothing but extend Bush's policies. There is really no difference. What changed besides even more debt, wars, loss of civil liberties?

And the fact is, the only candidate who represents REAL change of any kind is Ron Paul. That is why the establishment fears him. Big government wants to keep the status quo going even though it is not good for the american people and certainly not sustainable.

Do you think if Paul gets elected he will be able to enact 'real' change?

On certain things that the president has direct power over like the wars, yes. Other things will be tougher but i like Americas chances of getting back on track with Ron Paul as president far more than any of the other candidates.

I know you think I always disagree with you but for the record I was just wondering if you were delusional or not. j/k Og

Zigg was it this one?

Could be, looks like the place.

you know he's gonna win Iowa, right? You should be proud your state has so many smart people

i did a bit of time in Iowa they may be smart but the women look like they are built for hard work

haha im sure there are some cute girls from Iowa

Kate Austen, Shawn Johnson, and Lara Flynn Boyle are from Iowa not to mention the stunning Donna Reed.

Cu Bu wrote:

i did a bit of time in Iowa they may be smart but the women look like they are built for hard work

Thanks for getting a hold of me fuck face. There are plenty of pigs here but we have our fair share of 9's and 10's. I'm sure Oklahoma has no pigs right? lol

oggy420 wrote:

you know he's gonna win Iowa, right? You should be proud your state has so many smart people

He might, we'll see soon...

Ziggy116 wrote:

Cu Bu wrote:

i did a bit of time in Iowa they may be smart but the women look like they are built for hard work

Thanks for getting a hold of me fuck face. There are plenty of pigs here but we have our fair share of 9's and 10's. I'm sure Oklahoma has no pigs right? lol

lol it was like january/feb 07

Cu Bu wrote:

Ziggy116 wrote:

Cu Bu wrote:

i did a bit of time in Iowa they may be smart but the women look like they are built for hard work

Thanks for getting a hold of me fuck face. There are plenty of pigs here but we have our fair share of 9's and 10's. I'm sure Oklahoma has no pigs right? lol

lol it was like january/feb 07

Just messin around. Next time...

well if that is all the votes we're gonna get then it looks like Ron Paul wins

oggy420 wrote:

well if that is all the votes we're gonna get then it looks like Ron Paul wins

Since I really have no faith in anyone, he'll get my vote...just for the Ogster

new poll on drudge report with over 165,000 votes has ron paul in 1st with 29%, Romney 25%, Santorum 18%

23/23/23 so far with Santorum coming out of no where. I really can't stand Romney but having 3 tied at the top just helps him I think