New Presidential Poll

fair enough. I thought Monday was relatively entertaining.

anyone watch the state of the union?

i dont understand why the Media isn't allowed to question Newt about his open marriage when he supported impeaching Clinton when he was president, and Herman Cain was essentially executed by the media for having incidents with women.

Some of the debate audiences are really bad too. Who boo's the golden rule?

oggy420 wrote:

i dont understand why the Media isn't allowed to question Newt about his open marriage when he supported impeaching Clinton when he was president, and Herman Cain was essentially executed by the media for having incidents with women.

Some of the debate audiences are really bad too. Who boo's the golden rule?

never talk about Fight Club?

captain organic wrote:

anyone watch the state of the union?

where he said the exact same thing as he did in the 2010 and 11 SOTU almost word for word? Where he pushed plans that have already been exposed as failures? Where he tries to test us to see how dumb we are by telling us that things are on the up and up when everyone knows we're going down the shitter? I watched as much as i could bear but it was pretty brutal.

OU wrote:

oggy420 wrote:

i dont understand why the Media isn't allowed to question Newt about his open marriage when he supported impeaching Clinton when he was president, and Herman Cain was essentially executed by the media for having incidents with women.

Some of the debate audiences are really bad too. Who boo's the golden rule?

never talk about Fight Club?

haha wasn't that the 1st and only rule of fight club?

oggy420 wrote:

OU wrote:

oggy420 wrote:

i dont understand why the Media isn't allowed to question Newt about his open marriage when he supported impeaching Clinton when he was president, and Herman Cain was essentially executed by the media for having incidents with women.

Some of the debate audiences are really bad too. Who boo's the golden rule?

never talk about Fight Club?

haha wasn't that the 1st and only rule of fight club?

I'm not suppose to talk about it...

oggy420 wrote:

i dont understand why the Media isn't allowed to question Newt about his open marriage when he supported impeaching Clinton when he was president, and Herman Cain was essentially executed by the media for having incidents with women.

Some of the debate audiences are really bad too. Who boo's the golden rule?

Evangelicals of coarse.

Made me proud to be a non affiliated agnostic.

ok soo there is no chance in hell Newt or Santorum could ever beat Obama, he would kill them in a election. Romney and Paul are the only one's who nationally poll well against Obama. Romney and Obama are not very different, support the same economic policies, same foreign policy, same health care policies. How is it considered throwing your vote away for voting for the candidate who is the least like Obama? And would enact real change that this country needs to get the economy going again? IMO voting for Romney just because he is the mainstream popular choice is throwing your vote away. The character, integrity, honesty, and voting record of the candidate is what should matter. If it does, the choice is pretty clear.

First of all if he isn't running as an Independent then why does any of this matter?

oggy420 wrote:

ok soo there is no chance in hell Newt or Santorum could ever beat Obama, he would kill them in a election. Romney and Paul are the only one's who nationally poll well against Obama. Romney and Obama are not very different, support the same economic policies, same foreign policy, same health care policies. How is it considered throwing your vote away for voting for the candidate who is the least like Obama? And would enact real change that this country needs to get the economy going again? IMO voting for Romney just because he is the mainstream popular choice is throwing your vote away. The character, integrity, honesty, and voting record of the candidate is what should matter. If it does, the choice is pretty clear.

I don't really see Romney and Obama as being all that similar, however, they are certainly closer to each other then either one is to Paul.

So if u R a Paul supporter, I agree, voting for Paul is not throwing away a vote(and I think he'll get some young dems to go his way if he does run as an independant so it would even out a bit).

I also don't think Romney's character, honesty or integrity are issues. He seems like a good guy, very successful, only major skeletons appear to be his mormonism and romneycare (which most Ma residents like btw).

It's about issues. First and foremost It's about whether or not the voter feels like bringing home all the troops from around the world, and stopping all the foreign aid, and thus helping to curb the spiraling deficit issue.

captain organic wrote:

oggy420 wrote:

ok soo there is no chance in hell Newt or Santorum could ever beat Obama, he would kill them in a election. Romney and Paul are the only one's who nationally poll well against Obama. Romney and Obama are not very different, support the same economic policies, same foreign policy, same health care policies. How is it considered throwing your vote away for voting for the candidate who is the least like Obama? And would enact real change that this country needs to get the economy going again? IMO voting for Romney just because he is the mainstream popular choice is throwing your vote away. The character, integrity, honesty, and voting record of the candidate is what should matter. If it does, the choice is pretty clear.

I don't really see Romney and Obama as being all that similar, however, they are certainly closer to each other then either one is to Paul.

So if u R a Paul supporter, I agree, voting for Paul is not throwing away a vote(and I think he'll get some young dems to go his way if he does run as an independant so it would even out a bit).

I also don't think Romney's character, honesty or integrity are issues. He seems like a good guy, very successful, only major skeletons appear to be his mormonism and romneycare (which most Ma residents like btw).

It's about issues. First and foremost It's about whether or not the voter feels like bringing home all the troops from around the world, and stopping all the foreign aid, and thus helping to curb the spiraling deficit issue.

besides being pro-life and being against dodd-frank, i don't see how Romney is any different.

Both Supported TARP bailouts

Stimulus - even though Romney criticizes it now, he supported it in 2009 (he flip-flops alot)

Both support payroll tax cut

Both supported the GM bailout

And of course Obamneycare - i don't care who likes it the individual mandate is wrong and unconstitutional

and they have the same exact foreign policy

not only that, it's like the both fit the same mold. Obama is an minority cause of his race, Romney because of his religion. They both are tall and talk in a similar way, both Harvard guys, i just fail to see any difference between these guys at all and im not the only one obviously.

There is absolutely no way in hell Mittens beats Obama.

Newt has the best chance IMO.

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this one is hilarious

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this one is hilarious

lol

OU wrote:

Da fuck.

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