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PostSubject: Re: If BJ beats Nick?   If BJ beats Nick? - Page 2 EmptyFri Sep 09, 2011 11:12 am

Farmer1906 wrote:
MMAEYES wrote:
So he gets a paycut for what Dana acted like was the worst thing he could do next to pulling a Paul Daley.

He gets a paycut for not being a professional and doing part of his job. He needs to grow up. The UFC could have easily cut him. He should be thankful he's not stuck in Bellator.


I agree I'm saying if it was bad enough for him to get pulled then he shouldn't be allowed to fight on the card. If it was bad but not bad enough to get kicked off the card then he should have just stayed on the title fight and took a huge pay cut. Why couldn't he just fight GSP with a huge pay cut, maybe like you said lose all ppv money or some shit. But don't act like he did something so bad your about to cut him and then put him on the same card on a deferent fight it's just stupid to me.
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This actually doesn't work out that bad for me. I love Condit and I think he has a great chance in this fight. If Condit beats GSP and Nick beats BJ I'll be a pretty happy man. Then if Nick and Condit fight for the title? That would be the ideal title fight for me at WW.
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PostSubject: Re: If BJ beats Nick?   If BJ beats Nick? - Page 2 EmptyFri Sep 09, 2011 11:18 am

All I know is if BJ beats Nick Diaz decisively, Nick gets his walking papers...
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Condit vs Diaz would be a hell of a fight!
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PostSubject: Re: If BJ beats Nick?   If BJ beats Nick? - Page 2 EmptyFri Sep 09, 2011 11:20 am

I am happy for Condit, being pissed about Nick and BJ's situation has overshadowed atleast to me, this great opportunity for a fighter that imo really deserves it. Carlos is the man, he's exciting, he's the natural born killer for crying out loud lol hope he kicks GSPs ass
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Andrew the Raider King wrote:
All I know is if BJ beats Nick Diaz decisively, Nick gets his walking papers...
You mean like finishes Nick? Do you really think BJ can dominate Nick in any area? A KO here would be surprising but damn would it be impressive. If you can dominate Nick Diaz and you aren't a wrestler, you got skills son.
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Andrew the Raider King wrote:
All I know is if BJ beats Nick Diaz decisively, Nick gets his walking papers...
I don't think so.... So many fights to be made with Diaz in the UFC.
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PostSubject: Re: If BJ beats Nick?   If BJ beats Nick? - Page 2 EmptyFri Sep 09, 2011 11:23 am

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I am happy for Condit, being pissed about Nick and BJ's situation has overshadowed atleast to me, this great opportunity for a fighter that imo really deserves it. Carlos is the man, he's exciting, he's the natural born killer for crying out loud lol hope he kicks GSPs ass
Carlos Condit's quote should be "I finish fights", he even out does Skinny Florian in that area. It's hard not to be a Condit fan.
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PostSubject: Re: If BJ beats Nick?   If BJ beats Nick? - Page 2 EmptyFri Sep 09, 2011 12:09 pm

Condit or Diaz imo pose very tough matchups for BJ, as they should like Fitch or GSP, etc of quality middleweights. Because end of the day, Penn has no business at WW in today's MMA if you don't count the fact he is one of the best fighters in the sports history. He can win this on superior talent in all categories, but it will be up hill due to physical differences.
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PostSubject: Re: If BJ beats Nick?   If BJ beats Nick? - Page 2 EmptyFri Sep 09, 2011 12:55 pm

I think BJ has every right to be fighting at WW these days, I agree he is small for WW but imo he can hang with anyone at the top of the weightclass. Those top fighters will give BJ problems but BJ has weapons of his own. If your saying he'll just get outwrestled by the top guys imo you could say the same thing about Condit.
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PostSubject: Re: If BJ beats Nick?   If BJ beats Nick? - Page 2 EmptyFri Sep 09, 2011 12:58 pm

I'm saying there are maybe one or two other men fighting in the world at LW that could move up and competently compete at WW, BJ being the top of that short list.
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Only BJ and Maynard would make the top 10 in both WW and LW I think with Diego Sanchez an outside chance.
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PostSubject: Re: If BJ beats Nick?   If BJ beats Nick? - Page 2 EmptyFri Sep 09, 2011 1:18 pm

Nate Diaz had some early success at WW. I think there might be a couple guys that could do well at WW. Maybe Cowboy or Melvin could do alright.
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Cowboy I agree with but not Melvin, though Cowboy isn't even in the top 10 right now.
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Cowboy I agree with but not Melvin, though Cowboy isn't even in the top 10 right now.
You still don't have Cowboy in your top 10? He must be knocking on that door pretty damn hard.
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Alvarez could hang. He is a big LW and already has had success at WW. His striking, tdd and movement put him over a lot of WW's already. Aoki snagged him and his only other loss is a decision to a Middleweight.
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If cerrone grows a bit he could potentially make some noise.
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OU wrote:
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Cowboy I agree with but not Melvin, though Cowboy isn't even in the top 10 right now.
You still don't have Cowboy in your top 10? He must be knocking on that door pretty damn hard.

He wasn't in your last 10. Does he make it now?

LW
1.Edgar
2.Maynard
3.Melendez
4.Miller
5.Alvarez
6.Melvin
7.Guida
8.Bendo
9.Aoki
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Alvarez could hang. He is a big LW and already has had success at WW. His striking, tdd and movement put him over a lot of WW's already. Aoki snagged him and his only other loss is a decision to a Middleweight.

He isn't really fighting top competition though is he?
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OU wrote:
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Cowboy I agree with but not Melvin, though Cowboy isn't even in the top 10 right now.
You still don't have Cowboy in your top 10? He must be knocking on that door pretty damn hard.

He wasn't in your last 10. Does he make it now?

LW
1.Edgar
2.Maynard
3.Melendez
4.Miller
5.Alvarez
6.Melvin
7.Guida
8.Bendo
9.Aoki
10.Siver

Yeah I would slip him in there at this point. Pretty hard not to.
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Who for?
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freakzilla wrote:
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Alvarez could hang. He is a big LW and already has had success at WW. His striking, tdd and movement put him over a lot of WW's already. Aoki snagged him and his only other loss is a decision to a Middleweight.

He isn't really fighting top competition though is he?

Some people can evaluate beyond that theory.
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If cerrone grows a bit he could potentially make some noise.
He looks like he has the right frame that if he really wanted to he could make the move to WW.
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Snap OU he caught you slipping lol
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GDPofDRC wrote:
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Alvarez could hang. He is a big LW and already has had success at WW. His striking, tdd and movement put him over a lot of WW's already. Aoki snagged him and his only other loss is a decision to a Middleweight.

He isn't really fighting top competition though is he?

Some people can evaluate beyond that theory.

It's easy to look good against fighters not ranked in the top 20. He's 1-1 against current top 20 fighters.
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