Rampage vs. Rashad in Pride:

Pretty simple, Pride rules, ring....

Same Rashad that fought Page Saturday, but a Rampage not coming off a long ass layoff with movie distractions, the Page that fought Hendo for instance or whoever.

Page still gets outclassed, he's too slow and plodding to beat Rashad.

Rampage wins. Rashad wouldn't be able to hold Rampage against the cage like he did so much in their fight.

Ali be honest what was the first Rampage fight you saw?

Do you also know how much fighting in pride would change things?

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Ali be honest what was the first Rampage fight you saw?

Do you also know how much fighting in pride would change things?

Probably the Forrest fight, however I have seen Page pride clips. It's not going to change the fact he's got atrocious footwork and average speed.

I knew it

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

I knew it

Instead of looking down on my opinion try and convince me.

ali you are nuts then.

I say Rashad takes him down and knees him to the head. Rampage wouldn't have had anywhere to run, or a cage to lean against to save him from getting taken down. Especially if Rashad still came out and clipped him the way he did in this fight.

josh200612 wrote:

ali you are nuts then.

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I know Rampage is your boy Josh, but I just feel Rashad will always be too fast and athletic for him.

Rashad would lose a lot of fights in PRIDE as he would not have an octagon to control

ohiovol62 wrote:

Rashad would lose a lot of fights in PRIDE as he would not have an octagon to control

I don't know about "alot" of fights but he def would have more trouble with guys like Page in a ring.

If it was a Hendo Page, he'd have more of a shot, but he'd still be taken down and suffer from being half the speed of Rashad Evans, but if it was Pride Rampage he'd be knocked silly.

But this fight haunts more than just Rampage. Look at how his fans are like "ya well whatever, rashad may have embarrassed him but rashad didnt impress me, he sucks, rampage would win in pride!!!"

Poor Rampage fans. :'(

Poor Rampage? Come on, I seriously doubt anyone is feeling sorry for him. The bottom line is that aside from that ghost KO punch people saw at the start, Rashad didn't do much of anything in that fight.

Hey, he got the win so I guess mission accomplished...but he didn't do anything close to what he said he was gonna do. Some guys back up their shit talk and some don't. Rashad is the latter.

And what do you call what Rampage did? Rampage talked the bigger shit of the two and by far did less.

Only one of the two came close to backing it up, and that was Rashad Evans.


I am sorry, but it is just bitterness to fault a fighter for not knocking his opponent out after prefight "im knocking you out" talk. I think we'd have to criticize every fighter who went to a decision in history. Rampage got fucking owned from start to finish. Accept it.


Maybe I should consult with Ninja about providing counselors for some of the members here. There seems to be a need for it, as some members are taking this extremely hard.

I'm not taking it hard at all. Rampage came to throw down and settle this shit, Rashad came to hump Rampage's leg against the cage. Shame on him.

While you were watching that fight you were honestly thinking, damn, Rashad is straight up owning Page??? Not me. I was thinking, damn, I wish Rashad would actually fight instead of failing at takedown attempts and holding Page against the cage.

There's a reason they were separated multiple times. Rashad was attempting takedowns and failing but instead of being active with dirty boxing or just backing out he decided to stay on the cage and hold Page there. It looked more like that garbage you hate so much on the TUF show. Yeah, definitely looked more like a TUF fight than a PPV main event.

I thought Rampage had him in the 3rd. Props to Rashad for recovering from that.

Man, people are having a really hard time accepting Rampage's defeat. I don't know if it's Rashad hate or Rampage love. Probably both. Rashad is a better fighter than Rampage, deal with it.

boomer sooner wrote:

Man, people are having a really hard time accepting Rampage's defeat. I don't know if it's Rashad hate or Rampage love. Probably both. Rashad is a better fighter than Rampage, deal with it.

I don't really agree with that. I think a rematch could go differently.

It's not easy to root for a guy who is content to hump and hold when he thinks he is ahead, especially when he dance in the cage like he is TO and talks about putting people to sleep. I can only recall three, maybe four total punches thrown by Rashad that had true finishing intent. I've never seen him KO anyone with a slam.

What was I thinking during the fight? I was criticizing and commenting on Rashad trying to use his wrestling against a physically stronger opponent with wrestling skills as he has in the past, but then once he started finding success I was impressed by his ability to control and takedown Jackson. He showed a lot of determination and strength to have his takedowns stuffed often yet still continue fighting for the takedown until he tired Rampage out and gained the advantage in wrestling. When was the last time someone could impose his will on Page with wrestling?

Rampage hits way to hard in the clinch to get foolish with him there either. Obviously it was a priority rule in his gameplan set by Greg Jackson to avoid both the pocket and the clinch where Rampage is most dangerous. I don't fault Greg Jackson for this strategy here nor did I fault GSP for this strategy against Thiago Alves. Rampage is dangerous in exactly two places - trading counters and in the single collar tie. Evans avoided those two areas the entire fight and still managed to get clipped and nearly finished. Obviously he chose the right strategy if he was interested in winning.

He out muscled him, out hustled him, jacked his jaw like no one in the UFC ever has and made him respect his power. Rashad completely owned Rampage start to finish. Rampage is used to being bigger and stronger and bullying his opponents, but Rashad through grit, technique and athleticism would have none of it, despite being a true middleweight.

No I guess it wasn't the back and fourth slugfests fans had anticipated after the smacktalk, but it went just as I anticipated if Rashad was going to win. I feel it was the best performance of Evans career, and more impressive than Liddell or Forrest even.

Would it be smart to swing for the fence in the third when you are up 2-0? WHy give your opponent the chance?

Rashad just wasn't looking to throw punching combinations, which would be to Quinton's advantage, but he was definitely throwing fight finishing shots, as seen in the first round. In all reality, his striking was high end MMA featuring punches followed by takedowns/clinches.

And if the fight goes five rounds, I think Evans finishes it on the ground. His GnP was getting more vicious with each round.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

What was I thinking during the fight? I was criticizing and commenting on Rashad trying to use his wrestling against a physically stronger opponent with wrestling skills as he has in the past, but then once he started finding success I was impressed by his ability to control and takedown Jackson. He showed a lot of determination and strength to have his takedowns stuffed often yet still continue fighting for the takedown until he tired Rampage out and gained the advantage in wrestling. When was the last time someone could impose his will on Page with wrestling?

Rampage hits way to hard in the clinch to get foolish with him there either. Obviously it was a priority rule in his gameplan set by Greg Jackson to avoid both the pocket and the clinch where Rampage is most dangerous. I don't fault Greg Jackson for this strategy here nor did I fault GSP for this strategy against Thiago Alves. Rampage is dangerous in exactly two places - trading counters and in the single collar tie. Evans avoided those two areas the entire fight and still managed to get clipped and nearly finished. Obviously he chose the right strategy if he was interested in winning.

He out muscled him, out hustled him, jacked his jaw like no one in the UFC ever has and made him respect his power. Rashad completely owned Rampage start to finish. Rampage is used to being bigger and stronger and bullying his opponents, but Rashad through grit, technique and athleticism would have none of it, despite being a true middleweight.

No I guess it wasn't the back and fourth slugfests fans had anticipated after the smacktalk, but it went just as I anticipated if Rashad was going to win. I feel it was the best performance of Evans career, and more impressive than Liddell or Forrest even.

Agree 100%

Wolfy you're really going overboard, how did Rashad embarrass Page? He hugged on him and danced around for 80% of the fight. His so-called KO punch merely caught Page off balance, in fact I don't even think Rashad is capable of finishing Page.

A lot of us are unimpressed, becuase Shad wasn't impressive.