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icebergsnoopy Yellow Belt
Posts : 143 Join date : 2010-06-23
| Subject: Rampage, Where’s the Pride? Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:40 pm | |
| By Jason Kelly Anytime you question a fighter who has a following as gargantuan as Quinton “Rampage” Jackson, you await the hate you are sure to receive from his devoted fans, and I am prepared for it. The werewolf howls, Rampage slams, and willingness to hurt people are what made Rampage a lucrative fighter for UFC to contract following the UFC’s buyout of Pride FC. Rampage entered the UFC Octagon with the identical intensity he brought to the Pride ring, but things have just gone downhill from there. The Rampage that was willing to knock out or get knocked out has faded; the Rampage that came to the UFC left his Pride, in Pride. The Rampage of Pride FC would have steamrolled Keith Jardine in the round just off raw determination; instead Rampage brought his lackluster performance with Jardine to a decision. Rampage did not have the same determination and ferociousness that he displayed in Pride. After Rampage smashed Marvin Eastman and afterward earned Chuck Liddell’s belt, I thought to myself; “Great, another outstanding fighter UFC has to mix up the light heavyweight division”. I would not say I was wrong but, I definitely would not say I was correct. Rampage went on to beat Dan Henderson in a unanimous decision after he defeated Liddell for the light heavyweight strap, since then Rampage’s only claim to rampaging was his knock out over Wanderlei Silva, a monster who distinguished Rampage’s existence twice in Pride FC. Rampage appears to be complacent after that revengeful knock out win, and ever since then he has expressed a diminutive interest in fighting. Rashad Evans might have been slammed to pieces if Pride Rampage walked into the cage but, but lost a decision in that night. Once again, not being the aggressive, get-after-it Rampage we knew and loved in Pride. Now he faces perhaps the worst match up of his career, former light heavyweight champion Lyoto Machida. Rampage now faces a fighter who incorporates patience and discipline more so than any other opponent he has ever encountered. This something Jackson has never had to deal with before, and may prove to be massive nuisance for Rampage. Lyoto will put Rampage in precarious positions, keeping him guessing, instead of blasting Machida with the his patented “bust yo ass!” approach. However, if the Rampage from Pride does enter the octagon at UFC 123, this fight will be violent but, the interest Rampage has shone in fighting recently; is nil. Rampage has not lost his willpower to fight but, he conveys no ambition in a title and epitomizes a no concern attitude in which fighter he fights. That is not the Quinton we know from Pride. Jackson’s chance to re kindle his desire for fighting comes in the form of Lyoto Machida, a man Rampage cannot embrace nonchalantly, or Rampage will be forgotten the same way Jackson forgot Pride Rampage; pride less. http://www.mmareligion.com/site2/?p=1092 | |
| | | Ziggy116 Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Rampage, Fedor, Gangster brothers, Aldo Posts : 3288 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 43 Location : Cedar Rapids
| Subject: Re: Rampage, Where’s the Pride? Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:19 pm | |
| It's hard for me to disagree with that. I was a huge fan for a long time but I feel like he just isn't the same guy anymore
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| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 104 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: Rampage, Where’s the Pride? Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:48 pm | |
| Rampage is tough cookie to crack right now. I'm a big fan and will remain a fan because winning and losing are only part of the reasons I am a fan. MMA entertains me, Rampage, in MMA and out of it, has entertained me. It's not easy to come to grip with the notion that Rampage has lost the part of him we know can rip through an opponent, but it might be the case.
I think age and experience make you better but a trade off is they also make you worse. Take for example my buddy Luke. He was trained by these wise old masters who knew and had seen way more than he every did, but, he had the advantage of brash untamed youth and an inexperienced and unhindered lack of knowledge that gave him the power and willingness to do what his masters could not. That's not to say the old masters couldn't spill some buckets, they knew how and were capable of doing so but their energy had faded them from them to the point they couldn't do it the same as Luke.
Page has kicked asses and had his ass kicked. He's been to war. Is his pride gone? Never. Can he rekindle the raw fury he displayed in the 00's today? That might be more tough. I think he might be a smarter and more talented fighter today than ever, which could be a negative for him. | |
| | | throwdownfight1 Blue Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Matt Hughes,Tito Ortiz,Frank Mir Posts : 875 Join date : 2010-10-29 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Rampage, Where’s the Pride? Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:22 pm | |
| i really dont think the page from pride could of beaten shad in a cage. with that said i could so see page landing a hard hook on machida on the 20th and koing him | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Rampage, Where’s the Pride? Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:26 pm | |
| The UFC Rampage that beat Liddell and Hendo is five times the fighter at least as the one butchered routinely in Pride by the Chutebox academy. | |
| | | throwdownfight1 Blue Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Matt Hughes,Tito Ortiz,Frank Mir Posts : 875 Join date : 2010-10-29 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Rampage, Where’s the Pride? Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:05 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- The UFC Rampage that beat Liddell and Hendo is five times the fighter at least as the one butchered routinely in Pride by the Chutebox academy.
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| | | icebergsnoopy Yellow Belt
Posts : 143 Join date : 2010-06-23
| Subject: Re: Rampage, Where’s the Pride? Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:16 am | |
| [quote="Wolfgangsta"]The UFC Rampage that beat Liddell and Hendo is five times the fighter at least as the one butchered routinely in Pride by the Chutebox academy. [/quote
LMAO NO doubt!. he sucked in Pride and he sucks now, he has Chucks number, Hendo is an 85er, and he KO'd wandy but not as bad as wandy fucked him up | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Rampage, Where’s the Pride? Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:19 am | |
| [quote="icebergsnoopy"] - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- The UFC Rampage that beat Liddell and Hendo is five times the fighter at least as the one butchered routinely in Pride by the Chutebox academy. [/quote
LMAO NO doubt!. he sucked in Pride and he sucks now, he has Chucks number, Hendo is an 85er, and he KO'd wandy but not as bad as wandy fucked him up Disappointed. I don't see the awesome disclaimer. | |
| | | Ziggy116 Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Rampage, Fedor, Gangster brothers, Aldo Posts : 3288 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 43 Location : Cedar Rapids
| Subject: Re: Rampage, Where’s the Pride? Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:54 pm | |
| [quote="icebergsnoopy"] - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- The UFC Rampage that beat Liddell and Hendo is five times the fighter at least as the one butchered routinely in Pride by the Chutebox academy. [/quote
LMAO NO doubt!. he sucked in Pride and he sucks now, he has Chucks number, Hendo is an 85er, and he KO'd wandy but not as bad as wandy fucked him up Not as bad as Wandy fucked him up in Pride? Is that what you mean? | |
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