Any Bones Fans Left?

I am not a fan of many fighters, I am a fan of guys who come to fight every time. Bones is going to be a great fighter someday...today is not that day. But I am not a fan of tomorrows opponent either.

timthebim wrote:

I loved him when he beat Shogun and he hasnt really done much sense but now I hate him. Weird i guess.

u and all the other haters have been pulled into the vortex.


There really is no legit reasons to dislike the guy. At least in comparison to other fan favorites.

Why do you like him?

KingsOwn19 wrote:

captain organic wrote:

people bitch when guys don't want to fight each other. And then they bitch when a guy says "yeah ill fight".



this anti Jones rhetoric could not be more overblown.

I never bitched about teammates not fighting eachother and never will. I don't mind if they do, if it's a mutual, in team agreement with nobody getting forced out which i'm guessing GSP-Condit is. I was in full of support of Lyoto/Silva not fighting each other when everybody was pissing about them saying they won't fight eachother. I support the team concept and so do pretty much all MMA fighters(majority, especially in the UFC) who would not fight their teammates or even hint at it and would not sign on to a team that had an agreement not to do that. So i'm not using a double standard to crap on your boy.

The fact that Rashad was willing to leave a division he was the #1 contender in and go non and on about how he would never fight Jones...and lets not forget Jones was saying the same thing for the longest time so it's not a case of Shad going around saying shit when he did not know Jones felt the same way. Jones said the same shit and then all of a sudden he started saying something different not only making Evans look like a chump, but forcing him out of his team and creating a situation where Shad is going up against a guy who has Evans old coaches to his disposal, not to mention all the training Bones got with Evans. Evans bent over backwards for this guy and Jones spit in his face. Its low and you are in a small small small minority that think it's a no deal.

Honestly I don't know how much actual affiliation GSP and Condit really have. I saw on the countdown show for the Shields fight that GSP more or less stays in Canada and Jackson along with some of his fighters go up there to train GSP for a fight. I don't know if Condit was/is one of those fighters or not but I do know Rashad was, and Florian is. I wouldn't be surprised if the only affiliation they do have is Greg Jackson and a few guys on the coaching staff that do go up there to help prepare GSP.

Condit and GSP have shared training partners but never trained together. Jackson isn't coaching either of them. But they were never really team mates. Both just use Greg Jackson as coach.

Ludo wrote:

KingsOwn19 wrote:

captain organic wrote:

people bitch when guys don't want to fight each other. And then they bitch when a guy says "yeah ill fight".



this anti Jones rhetoric could not be more overblown.

I never bitched about teammates not fighting eachother and never will. I don't mind if they do, if it's a mutual, in team agreement with nobody getting forced out which i'm guessing GSP-Condit is. I was in full of support of Lyoto/Silva not fighting each other when everybody was pissing about them saying they won't fight eachother. I support the team concept and so do pretty much all MMA fighters(majority, especially in the UFC) who would not fight their teammates or even hint at it and would not sign on to a team that had an agreement not to do that. So i'm not using a double standard to crap on your boy.

The fact that Rashad was willing to leave a division he was the #1 contender in and go non and on about how he would never fight Jones...and lets not forget Jones was saying the same thing for the longest time so it's not a case of Shad going around saying shit when he did not know Jones felt the same way. Jones said the same shit and then all of a sudden he started saying something different not only making Evans look like a chump, but forcing him out of his team and creating a situation where Shad is going up against a guy who has Evans old coaches to his disposal, not to mention all the training Bones got with Evans. Evans bent over backwards for this guy and Jones spit in his face. Its low and you are in a small small small minority that think it's a no deal.

Honestly I don't know how much actual affiliation GSP and Condit really have. I saw on the countdown show for the Shields fight that GSP more or less stays in Canada and Jackson along with some of his fighters go up there to train GSP for a fight. I don't know if Condit was/is one of those fighters or not but I do know Rashad was, and Florian is. I wouldn't be surprised if the only affiliation they do have is Greg Jackson and a few guys on the coaching staff that do go up there to help prepare GSP.

I thought i saw Condit in the countdown shows helping GSP prepare for Penn in their second fight, but from all the interviews it does seem like they are acquaintances rather than actually teammates or friends.

but even then, there is probably some in house agreements that have to be made between them because of the fact that they do use the same coaches. Probably won't be surprised if Jackson is not in any corner for GSP-Condit.

Evans and Jones were sparring partners who had long had an agreement not to fight eachother. It is quite aggravating when somebody you pretty much give the key to your toolbox on a daily basis decides that you are fair game. Kind of makes ever training with them regrettable.

GDPofDRC wrote:

Why do you like him?

The reason I like Jones is the reason I like MMA. I like to watch great fights.


and b4 u go into the robot argument. jones is no convicted criminal. immature? Maybe. A bad guy? I have seen nothing that suggests that.

Ludo wrote:

captain organic wrote:

A bad guy? I have seen nothing that suggests that.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/9/22/2442520/ufc-135-jon-jones-speaks-with-british-accent-admits-to-spying

LMAO Dick Van Dyk esque.

Ludo wrote:

captain organic wrote:

A bad guy? I have seen nothing that suggests that.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/9/22/2442520/ufc-135-jon-jones-speaks-with-british-accent-admits-to-spying

Oh Dag! this proves it, call the cops.

If anything that interview made me a fan.

captain organic wrote:

Ludo wrote:

captain organic wrote:

A bad guy? I have seen nothing that suggests that.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/9/22/2442520/ufc-135-jon-jones-speaks-with-british-accent-admits-to-spying

Oh Dag! this proves it, call the cops.

I'm not sure what else to tell you really if you don't believe the guy when he admits he did it and got caught doing it. If you want to put blinders on and somehow try to justify spying on your opponent then thats definitely something you can do but a vast majority won't be buying what your selling. Personally as far as it goes Jones has proven himself a malignant human being. If not for that story about subduing a criminal on the street hours before 128(a truly stupid thing to do though) I would go as far as to say he is one of the worst human beings in the sport today. You can say what you want about Brock hamming it up as the villain for PR purposes and the act, but Jones isn't acting.

Ali wrote:

If anything that interview made me a fan.

He's not really british.

Someone from the UK liked it. It was intended for his British fans. Whatever. I think that is funny. Jones got caught spying though and while I think it may be his handlers and his whole camp, if I was looking for a reason to dislike him before I found one now. Jones has a tremendous "I dont like that mother fucker" factor.

captain organic wrote:

Love him. The "bones is a douche" sentiment is a train that ran totally out of control.

What did the guy do exactly? His willingness to fight shad got everyone in a tizzy, which is ridiculous.

Then getting hurt? Seriously?

compare his actions to fan favorites page, Penn, Brock, and my man bones comes out looking rosy.

His willingness to fight Rashad? It was the way he did Rashad, telling what happened in practice, acting like he is in innocent and everything, the way that he said he was hurt and couldn't fight and then only after Rashad took another fight did he say he could fight and is fighting the next month, and then saying if Rashad had been patient they could've fought. It is the way he just did that interview on ESPN, Rampage just looks pissed, but Jones came across horrible, if that is selling a fight that kid has a lot to learn. He can fight I will give him that.

He is a cheater.

Did everyone also forget what he said about signing fans title belts?

Jon Jones has potential to one of the best ever from what I've seen. He trys to be the good little Christian boy who would help an old lady across the street and then brag about it. He needs to stop that and brag about himself more and act like the Rock and interupt Rogan, Ariel, etc. during interviews and then he will be loved. I also reccomend that he poor bud light down his throat on top of the octagon after each win. We would worship him then.

He's probably gonna continue with the richey boy routine that annoys us though.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Jon Jones has potential to one of the best ever from what I've seen. He trys to be the good little Christian boy who would help an old lady across the street and then brag about it. He needs to stop that and brag about himself more and act like the Rock and interupt Rogan, Ariel, etc. during interviews and then he will be loved. I also reccomend that he poor bud light down his throat on top of the octagon after each win. We would worship him then.

He's probably gonna continue with the richey boy routine that annoys us though.

Ludo wrote:

captain organic wrote:

Ludo wrote:

captain organic wrote:

A bad guy? I have seen nothing that suggests that.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/9/22/2442520/ufc-135-jon-jones-speaks-with-british-accent-admits-to-spying

Oh Dag! this proves it, call the cops.

I'm not sure what else to tell you really if you don't believe the guy when he admits he did it and got caught doing it. If you want to put blinders on and somehow try to justify spying on your opponent then thats definitely something you can do but a vast majority won't be buying what your selling. Personally as far as it goes Jones has proven himself a malignant human being. If not for that story about subduing a criminal on the street hours before 128(a truly stupid thing to do though) I would go as far as to say he is one of the worst human beings in the sport today. You can say what you want about Brock hamming it up as the villain for PR purposes and the act, but Jones isn't acting.

Bones is now getting criticised for his truly heroic actions.

One of the worst human beings in the sport? u have to b joking.

Ludo is exemplifying how ridiculous the bones hate has become.

Yeah I'm not sure I would go that far, but I also think there are certainly reasons for people to dislike Jones. They absolutely exist and there are quite a few of them

How is explaining that without that act he would be one of the worst human beings in the sport criticizing? I just pointed out how insanely foolish a thing it was to do. Chasing down someone who just robbed a person not eight hours before your about to fight for the UFC light heavyweight title? I applaud his willingness to help someone in need but I also recognize that he could have been injured and thus been forced to pull out of the fight for it.

For a guy who changes his stance on an issue not once but twice now in regard to major issues around him it's hard not to dislike the kid. There is nothing ridiculous about disliking someone who has had the out of cage doings that Jones has over the last year. First he won't fight Rashad, then he will. He's too "injured" to fight Rashad but as soon as Evans takes a fight to avoid making the same mistake again he's all set to fight one month after he would have been fighting Evans. Now he's spying on people during training camp. It's hard to respect a person, a man especially when they behave in the above mentioned ways.

On a side note. It's becoming harder and harder for Me to take you seriously when you post as though your a teenager texting. Is it really so difficult to add another letter after "b" or two more before "u"? I'm not even trying to be a dick I'm just saying it really cheapens whatever point your trying to make, at least for Me, when I read a post with "u have to b joking" or "some1".

dude it's a fucking MMA(is this abbreviation OK(Is ok ok?)?)message board. Give me a break on cheapening the point.

Are you good at typing captain?

Look. I didn't bring it up to turn it into something ugly. I brought it up because to be quite honest it makes Me feel like I'm debating with a middle schooler. It cheapens the point for Me. Any minute now I'm waiting for the end of an argument to be laden with "LOLZOMGWTFBBQ".