Most Overrated and Underrated MMA fighter ever?

true wolf, like i mention on another thread reem/lesnar will be a fight between 2 of the most hyped hws who rose to the top quickly in recent memory. Most pick them over others based on strength and size.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Lesnar for a while there had numerous super powers attributed to him. He has had a success in his career this is true, but that doesn't mean he was not over valued.

He had a fanbase that came over to MMA simply for him along the lines of no other fighter in history, but I don't think its fair to stick some huge overrated label on him just because of the perception of him from people who knew little of the sport

Overrated-Mike Brown
Underrated-Kazushi Sakuraba

This whole website and most legitimate MMA writers were duped into believing his muscles made him immune to takedown defense, subs or punching. It was mind numbing. Most overrated ever easily was Brock Lesnar.

I don't think there's really been a fighter than anyone thought was immune to getting punched in the face. Discussing whether or not there was someone who could take Brock down or the logistics of him getting guillotined given his total lack of neck is a different story, but those are are pretty much basic points of discussion on a message board. There were a couple posters on this board that hated Brock to a degree that anytime someone picked him to win a fight via takedowns/GnP/etc we would have to listen to the same "Derrrr Brock Smash" bullshit pretty much ad nauseum though

For everyone who didn't want to see any weaknesses in his game there were just as many that couldn't stand him to a point where they never gave credit. I think we could go back and look at some of the guys that you said would be able to beat Brock to realize that because there were some pretty damn silly names on there at times. I know you considered Roy Nelson to be a lock to beat Brock and I hope I'm wrong when I say I remember Brett Rogers once upon a time being on there too

I'd take Rogers back but Nelson would be a tough fight for Lesnar or any HW.

Brock Lesnar still has a lot of people hypnotized. Two ass kickings in the past 29 months is all he has to show for and people still drown in droll over him.

out of those two ass whoopins only one of them was a loss to the#2 ranked hw and former champ. Brock looked no differnt in his carwin fight than frankie did in his 2 last matches with edgar in the first rds of them guy was being tossed around,grabbing to the fence, doing back flips while getting pummeld til eventually grays arms tired out. Once again based on who can beat who there are probably bout 4 maybe 5 guys out there that can beat brock, thats not a bad thing for a guy who started his career as late as he did. Brock haters are just as bad brock nutters. In the end guy is legit and a top hw. If u dont think he is then ur underating him, if u think he will ever be #1 or 2 again then ur overatin him.

Don't drown now.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

I'd take Rogers back but Nelson would be a tough fight for Lesnar or any HW.

But after seeing him get thoroughly outwrestled by Frank Mir, I wouldn't take long to pick Brock in that fight

Overrated: Brock and Reem

Underrated: Nate Diaz

OU wrote:

Overrated: Brock and Reem

Underrated: Nate Diaz

Lol, no.

Brock yes. Reem no, Diaz no.

I have a feeling the new Reem love is going to get out of hand. But thankfully, he will be delt with next fight.

OU wrote:

I have a feeling the new Reem love is going to get out of hand. But thankfully, he will be delt with next fight.

even if he loses the next fight that does not mean he's overrated... he's beaten 2 top 5? HWs in his last 2 outings...

killerofchicken wrote:

OU wrote:

I have a feeling the new Reem love is going to get out of hand. But thankfully, he will be delt with next fight.

even if he loses the next fight that does not mean he's overrated... he's beaten 2 top 5? HWs in his last 2 outings...

You want me to acknowledge Brock as a top 5 HW when I made it a point to point out he warranted no top 5 consideration before the fight? Werdum is a boarderline top 5 in his own right.

OU wrote:

killerofchicken wrote:

OU wrote:

I have a feeling the new Reem love is going to get out of hand. But thankfully, he will be delt with next fight.

even if he loses the next fight that does not mean he's overrated... he's beaten 2 top 5? HWs in his last 2 outings...

You want me to acknowledge Brock as a top 5 HW when I made it a point to point out he warranted no top 5 consideration before the fight? Werdum is a boarderline top 5 in his own right.

you're jumping the gun on Alistair tho... he's suppose to lose to JDS, the number 1 ranked HW in the world.

I just don't like the vibe I'm getting from fans. But there is always a overreaction after every PPV.

OU wrote:

I just don't like the vibe I'm getting from fans. But there is always a overreaction after every PPV.

most of this board was high on Overeem before this fight... so IDK what ur yapping aboot

i mean, just look at Ariannys reaction... overrated? i dont think so

killerofchicken wrote:

OU wrote:

I just don't like the vibe I'm getting from fans. But there is always a overreaction after every PPV.

most of this board was high on Overeem before this fight... so IDK what ur yapping aboot

I didn't get that vibe.

lemme ask you this... how does losing to JDS prove that Overeem is/was overrated?

killerofchicken wrote:

lemme ask you this... how does losing to JDS prove that Overeem is/was overrated?

Well it will be brutal...but most of you will probably have to wait until you realize he is overrated.

OU wrote:

killerofchicken wrote:

lemme ask you this... how does losing to JDS prove that Overeem is/was overrated?

Well it will be brutal...but most of you will probably have to wait until you realize he is overrated.

umm... where do you rank him? top5?

killerofchicken wrote:

OU wrote:

killerofchicken wrote:

lemme ask you this... how does losing to JDS prove that Overeem is/was overrated?

Well it will be brutal...but most of you will probably have to wait until you realize he is overrated.

umm... where do you rank him? top5?

Probably. When the smoke clears, he might be around 5.