Most Overrated and Underrated MMA fighter ever?

I honestly didn't look at your fav fighters list before I made my decision.

freakzilla wrote:

I honestly didn't look at your fav fighters list before I made my decision.

I know, but even if you did I was fucking with you before your post so I deserved it. I'm a broken man, trying to spread the pain.

OU wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

I honestly didn't look at your fav fighters list before I made my decision.

I know, but even if you did I was fucking with you before your post so I deserved it. I'm a broken man, trying to spread the pain.

Why? anything in particular happen?

You need some flava to the list OU it's pretty blah.

freakzilla wrote:

OU wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

I honestly didn't look at your fav fighters list before I made my decision.

I know, but even if you did I was fucking with you before your post so I deserved it. I'm a broken man, trying to spread the pain.

Why? anything in particular happen?

Yes, 1 horrible night that will haunt my soul forever. UFC 132.

OU wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

OU wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

I honestly didn't look at your fav fighters list before I made my decision.

I know, but even if you did I was fucking with you before your post so I deserved it. I'm a broken man, trying to spread the pain.

Why? anything in particular happen?

Yes, 1 horrible night that will haunt my soul forever. UFC 132.

Lollllllllll

josh200612 wrote:

You need some flava to the list OU it's pretty blah.

dude, he's from Oklahoma... he knows no flava'

killerofchicken wrote:

josh200612 wrote:

You need some flava to the list OU it's pretty blah.

dude, he's from Oklahoma... he knows no flava'

LOL it's pretty boring I could watch all of the highlights and go to sleep on them.

josh200612 wrote:

You need some flava to the list OU it's pretty blah.

Here you go

killerofchicken wrote:

josh200612 wrote:

You need some flava to the list OU it's pretty blah.

dude, he's from Oklahoma... he knows no flava'

Hey I got too excited by the way he fights and put Bones on my list, but it's an elite list and he made it clear he didn't belong. It's my fault, unfair expectations.
Guys like Faber, Condit, Hendo and Paul Harris are right there and could be on my list.

lol I totally missed this thread.

Overrated, gotta be Sonnen. Now I know what your saying, hate, hate, hate, and more hate. But really, he is the most overrated fighter in the sport today. He has never had a meaningful win streak in his career as highlighted by his 0.666 win percentage, 0.500 in the UFC where he is 4-4. He hasn't finished an opponent in close to 5 years, that opponent being the iron chinned Casey Uscola in a fight in Sonnen's home town and has finished no opponents in the UFC. He is two dimensional with either cage n pray or lay in prey and for all the pedigree on the mat he would have everyone believe he has, he is made to quit by his opponents there over and over again. It's a fact he has abused his medications to his advantage, giving him higher than normal levels of testosterone to draw upon in training and competition. His mouth has hypnotized a lot of people, for all his yacking about this type of fighter and this nationality, nothing in his career really backs up any of it. Take Brazilian fighters for instance, Sonnen has been forced to quit against every single Brazilian fighter he has ever competed against, fact. I'm not saying Sonnen is not a good fighter, he is good, but he is the conductor of the overrated train.

Underrated. Hard to say. For me it is between four guys , none of which have been champion, all are kinda highly rated, all were TUF 1 middleweights. Kos, Leben, Florian and Sanchez. They are worthy of credible ranking at almost anytime and have all been fighting the best fighters in the UFC for their tenure. 49-19 among them in the UFC cumulatively. I go Kos, even considering his latest performance and that he's an ass. WW deep as it gets and he has always been there since 2006 in the top end of the mix. He might never see gold with the divisions Micheal Jordan likely to compete effectively for as long if not longer than Kos does, but he's gonna beat a lot of top guys before he is done giving himself another opportunity for the shot. If not Kos, than DMX fo sho!

Josh Koscheck is in no way shape or form underrated. He is rated where he belongs. How is he underrated?

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Josh Koscheck is in no way shape or form underrated. He is rated where he belongs. How is he underrated?

yeah i was scratching my head on that one as well, he has great wrestling and top control, and has power and no technique really

Overrated.....Shane Carwin.

Underrated......Jim Miller.

timthebim wrote:

Overrated.....Shane Carwin.

Underrated......Jim Miller.

then what does that say about Brock? I mean, remember the first round?

overrated-carwin,aussie george,david terrell

underrated-millers

If we're calling guys like Tito, Fitch and Ace underrated, Kos works too. How about Josh Thompson then? I think he is easily overlooked and underrated. I'm hoping his body can hold up and he has time to make a good run. I think Jacare is overtly underrated, I don't see him beating Silva just yet, but in 5 years he could be the MW dominator. Daniel Cormier is pretty underrated, my developed subjective eye sees him as being more capable than many others in this sport despite his experience and age. The bantamweight division is underrated, seriously, brush off the more than 7 or 8 years of buildup to 132's main event like it is the first time ever?, nah. Josh Barnett is still underrated imo, even after having fun with Rogers. Comes back to subjectivity, he can do all the things that objective reasoning cannot tell you about. I don't get how anyone can make a top 25 excluding him last week, let alone pre-teen at worst. I think Shinya Aoki is underrated sometimes for being such a tool in the striking game. Most people forget he has been a top ten lightweight for a while and was a top ten welterweight in the world before that. In the end none of these are really underrated overall I guess but they are also.

Kos never dominated the sport for years. Was never the face of the UFC. Never set any title defense records. And has never been treated as a second rate fighter by anyone. Does not compute.

killerofchicken wrote:

timthebim wrote:

Overrated.....Shane Carwin.

Underrated......Jim Miller.

then what does that say about Brock? I mean, remember the first round?

Has nothing to do with brock. Carwin is just overrated to me because I think people think he will be a champion and i just dont see it.

me neither, but remember the dudes pretty old too!

Yeah he is and now had some pretty good wars also.

Carwin already was a champion.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Carwin already was a champion.

Interim is not Champion. It's the winner of a glorified #1 contenders match, nothing more.

OU wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Carwin already was a champion.

Interim is not Champion. It's the winner of a glorified #1 contenders match, nothing more.

Thank u OU.