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Or MAYBE, im just speaking the truth that OU is (I wish I had a crowd to start the clap) OVERRATED...*que the clap* OVERRATED!
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Or MAYBE, im just speaking the truth that OU is (I wish I had a crowd to start the clap) OVERRATED...*que the clap* OVERRATED!

They may not currently be the best team in the nation, never said they were. You are just hating though because you are bitter about this weeks loss. No one in the nation deserves the #1 any more the OU anyways. No one is being fucked in the rankings.

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Or MAYBE, im just speaking the truth that OU is (I wish I had a crowd to start the clap) OVERRATED...*que the clap* OVERRATED!

They may not currently be the best team in the nation, never said they were. You are just hating though because you are bitter about this weeks loss. No one in the nation deserves the #1 any more the OU anyways. No one is being fucked in the rankings.

I'm not hating, im just stating.

Maybe you're just getting defensive because you know that the harsh reality that I am bringing up is inevitable and is bound to happen?
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Or MAYBE, im just speaking the truth that OU is (I wish I had a crowd to start the clap) OVERRATED...*que the clap* OVERRATED!

They may not currently be the best team in the nation, never said they were. You are just hating though because you are bitter about this weeks loss. No one in the nation deserves the #1 any more the OU anyways. No one is being fucked in the rankings.

I'm not hating, im just stating.

Maybe you're just getting defensive because you know that the harsh reality that I am bringing up is inevitable and is bound to happen?

Oh yeah, show me 1 team that will be favored over OU this year that we will play.

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Any team in the top 10 other than TCU or LSU would wax that ass.
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Any team in the top 10 other than TCU or LSU or Michigan State would wax that ass.
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im telling you dude LSU would give them some trouble.

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Any team in the top 10 other than TCU or LSU would wax that ass.

So 6 of the top 10? AAAAAAAAAAHHHHAAAAAHHHAAAAAAHHHHHHAAHHH
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Nope. Notre Dame has the toughest non-conference schedule; as they don't have a conference and it's a harder one than Army or Navy Laughing
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Nope. Notre Dame has the toughest non-conference schedule; as they don't have a conference and it's a harder one than Army or Navy Laughing

We are talking toughest of the unbeatens. Not the always beaten lol.

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Looks the the computers agree with Mark. OU has the hardest non-conference schedule of the unbeaten teams.
Yep we have the number 20 overall hardest schedule so far. Boise was 79th I think. Realllllll close huh?

I love the spin zone sooners. We have been talking about non-conference this whole time but lets use the whole schedule all of a sudden. I have NEVER and would NEVER say Boise is going to have a tougher schedule. I don't know where to look up non-conference strength but here is the SOS from the BCS rankings. OU has an average of 19 which is close to what you said but Boise's avg is 59 which is 20 off of your claim. This includes Boise playing the 2 worst teams in conference and OU getting a boost from Texas.

Sagarin (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt10.htm): OU 15 BSU 55
Anderson (http://andersonsports.com/football/ACF_frnk.html): OU 29 BSU 49
Colley (http://www.colleyrankings.com/currank.html): OU 13 BSU 73


As for my BHop analogy, HOF is a career-evaluated achievement just like seasonal ranking is a season-evaluated achievement. Would you rather me talk about Glen Johnson losing so many fights early on but didn't deserve the lineal title or Ring ranking later on. 1 game does not make a season IMO.
And OU just played Iowa State. Whats your point? If I had the information on the Non Conference I would have shown you that as well. Its not close.

On the Boxing analogy. No I would rather you just admit the sports are not even close and should never be compared.

Take any sport then. How does a bad loss disqualify you from being ranked? 1 game does not eliminate you from contention. As for Iowa State, they are 37th by Sagarin when San Jose is 121 and New Mexico state is 153. I think there is a small gap in strength.
College Football is unique. No other sport is like it. One loss can take you out of contention can it not? And they lost to an FCS they are done.
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Takes them out of contention for the title, sure. They're still undefeated in the ACC and are in total control of whether or not they end up in a BCS game though and I fully expect them to make it

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Takes them out of contention for the title, sure. They're still undefeated in the ACC and are in total control of whether or not they end up in a BCS game though and I fully expect them to make it
Its sad if they get into a BCS game.
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Takes them out of contention for the title, sure. They're still undefeated in the ACC and are in total control of whether or not they end up in a BCS game though and I fully expect them to make it
Its sad if they get into a BCS game.

As a Canes fan, I can tell you that the ACC team in the BCS Bowl is almost always sad (and not from Miami Embarassed ).
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Takes them out of contention for the title, sure. They're still undefeated in the ACC and are in total control of whether or not they end up in a BCS game though and I fully expect them to make it
Its sad if they get into a BCS game.

As a Canes fan, I can tell you that the ACC team in the BCS Bowl is almost always sad (and not from Miami Embarassed ).
I know you hate Florida State but they are the real deal. OU just caught them at the right time. Florida State I think will be a handfull for anyone by the end of the year. Also I am worried about that game next year.
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Takes them out of contention for the title, sure. They're still undefeated in the ACC and are in total control of whether or not they end up in a BCS game though and I fully expect them to make it
Its sad if they get into a BCS game.

As a Canes fan, I can tell you that the ACC team in the BCS Bowl is almost always sad (and not from Miami Embarassed ).
I know you hate Florida State but they are the real deal. OU just caught them at the right time. Florida State I think will be a handfull for anyone by the end of the year. Also I am worried about that game next year.

FSU is legit. I honestly think it will be FSU vs Va Tech in the ACC championship but hope that my Canes can sneak up and pull a JMU on Va Tech. I put Miami and NC State as the 2nd tier of a weak conference. This week should be a lot of fun and next week's rankings should look a lot different. Auburn (or LSU) could easily move up and OU will put a stranglehold on the top spot after beating Mizzou. Iowa and Nebraska can both regain some points with wins. Michigan State has one of their more challenging remaining games.
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My weekly update of the 2 OU opponents vs 2 BSU opponents:

FSU and OSU did not play.

Air Force lost to TCU 38-7.

Va Tech ran over Duke 44-7.

FSU moved up to #16 and Va Tech up to #23.

OSU got 5 votes in the AP and Air Force got 1 in the Coaches.

This week will be much more interesting. FSU takes on NC State and Air Force gets Utah. OSU gets Cal and Va Tech gets GA Tech. If FSU wins, they are in the ACC championship easy. If Air Force loses, they cannot get to 10 wins like someone predicted. OSU needs the win to stay in the hunt in the Pac 10. Va Tech will set up a matchup with the Canes for divisional control with a win over Ga Tech.
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I'm bumping this for the FSU-NC State game. Its a big game in the ACC and the best comparison between FSU and Va Tech.
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The only reason Va Tech is back in the rankings is to help Boise. If you doubt that being the case please see Nevada.
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The only reason Va Tech is back in the rankings is to help Boise. If you doubt that being the case please see Nevada.
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And who is trying to rig it for Boise? The people that will lose millions of dollars having a team with a smaller fan base in a big game? I just don't see it. The ACC might be the 2nd weakest AQ conference but it is still an accomplishment to be undefeated in conference play. Va Tech is the only one with that accomplishment. I hope my Canes beat the Hokies and then take NC State for the championship. I still think the it will be FSU and Va Tech in the championship.
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And who is trying to rig it for Boise? The people that will lose millions of dollars having a team with a smaller fan base in a big game? I just don't see it. The ACC might be the 2nd weakest AQ conference but it is still an accomplishment to be undefeated in conference play. Va Tech is the only one with that accomplishment. I hope my Canes beat the Hokies and then take NC State for the championship. I still think the it will be FSU and Va Tech in the championship.
Did you watch that game? Great game. Ponder must be just sick right now. I feel bad for the guy.
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And who is trying to rig it for Boise? The people that will lose millions of dollars having a team with a smaller fan base in a big game? I just don't see it. The ACC might be the 2nd weakest AQ conference but it is still an accomplishment to be undefeated in conference play. Va Tech is the only one with that accomplishment. I hope my Canes beat the Hokies and then take NC State for the championship. I still think the it will be FSU and Va Tech in the championship.

Perhaps the people that decide the polls. You know, the ones that get paid to write stories. What has been a bigger story the last few years? Teams that have won the BCS title or stupid Boise St?
OK so Va Tech is undefeated in conference play, they also lost to James Madison. If people aren't trying to get Boise St. to the title game then why was Nevada ranked for the first time in 62 years after a 4-0 start that included beating no one? So when they play Boise St. it's a bigger story.
No matter what has happened, either Nevada, Va Tech or OSU has been ranked all year. A 2 loss OSU team was ranked 23 when a 5-0 Mich St. & 5-0 Northwestern team were not. Why?
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And who is trying to rig it for Boise? The people that will lose millions of dollars having a team with a smaller fan base in a big game? I just don't see it. The ACC might be the 2nd weakest AQ conference but it is still an accomplishment to be undefeated in conference play. Va Tech is the only one with that accomplishment. I hope my Canes beat the Hokies and then take NC State for the championship. I still think the it will be FSU and Va Tech in the championship.
Did you watch that game? Great game. Ponder must be just sick right now. I feel bad for the guy.

It was a great game. I LOVED the call by the NC State coach to go for it on 4th down. You will not have a better chance to take the lead than needing a foot in 1 play. Ponder responded beautifully but just had a freak accident ruin him. FSU still seems like a superior team to me. With FSU's easier schedule and NC State's difficult one, I think it won't matter. That is not the way I want to see a senior lose his chance at a conference championship.
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And who is trying to rig it for Boise? The people that will lose millions of dollars having a team with a smaller fan base in a big game? I just don't see it. The ACC might be the 2nd weakest AQ conference but it is still an accomplishment to be undefeated in conference play. Va Tech is the only one with that accomplishment. I hope my Canes beat the Hokies and then take NC State for the championship. I still think the it will be FSU and Va Tech in the championship.

Perhaps the people that decide the polls. You know, the ones that get paid to write stories. What has been a bigger story the last few years? Teams that have won the BCS title or stupid Boise St?
OK so Va Tech is undefeated in conference play, they also lost to James Madison. If people aren't trying to get Boise St. to the title game then why was Nevada ranked for the first time in 62 years after a 4-0 start that included beating no one? So when they play Boise St. it's a bigger story.
No matter what has happened, either Nevada, Va Tech or OSU has been ranked all year. A 2 loss OSU team was ranked 23 when a 5-0 Mich St. & 5-0 Northwestern team were not. Why?

The AP poll is not even in the BCS equation. The coaches poll also has Va Tech ranked. Since I am sure you already think of me as crazy, I will add to the perception. Outside of the James Madison game, Va Tech has been a top 15 maybe even top 10 team. You are so focused on a game they had 4 days to prepare for. Should they have won by 3 or 4 scores? of course but this is what makes collegiate athletics great. Nevada has a solid win over Cal and has only loss to a decent Hawaii team on the road. They are ranked higher by UNBIASED computers than they are by humans. Va Tech is a team that I keep saying needs time to prove themselves but have done an excellent job for the past 6 games. They have 2 quality wins over NC State and ECU. My prediction is Va Tech will crack the top 20 prior to the Miami game as more middle tier teams lose in conference. OSU had only lost to 2 top 5 teams when they were ranked and had beaten a top 15 team on the road. They have since lost their 2nd best player so they will not have a great year but would've been a top 30-35 team easily.
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