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You cant even wear a yamaka in schools. No hats is part of the dress code as well in almost all schools.

That's rich. LOL marky mark you sure are a funky one aint ya?
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You cant even wear a yamaka in schools. No hats is part of the dress code as well in almost all schools.

That's rich. LOL marky mark you sure are a funky one aint ya?
Why is that? You cant wear hats in most schools.
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LOL do you know what would happen if someone tried to tell a Jewish student to remove a yamaka? I mean, how does someone even have an opinion like that in the first place. Man.
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LOL do you know what would happen if someone tried to tell a Jewish student to remove a yamaka? I mean, how does someone even have an opinion like that in the first place. Man.

You cannot wear a yamaka in school. Not in Oklahoma atleast. It wouldn't even be a debate.
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LOL do you know what would happen if someone tried to tell a Jewish student to remove a yamaka? I mean, how does someone even have an opinion like that in the first place. Man.
Wolf I am a teacher. NO ONE is allowed to wear a hat. I have a jewish student sitting right in front of me right now.
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That's nuts. If a Jewish kid made a fuss about his yamaka being removed he'd have it back within 25 minutes. But the reason they don't is probably a kind of a trade off for ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2YXVW2PZjQ
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That's nuts. If a Jewish kid made a fuss about his yamaka being removed he'd have it back within 25 minutes. But the reason they don't is probably a kind of a trade off for ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2YXVW2PZjQ
NO the supreme court has ruled a bunch of times that education is above things like that. As long as it does not cause a disruption in schools it usually is allowed. If it does cause a disruption schools can do what they want. Hats are a huge distraction in class so they are not allowed.
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Yamaka isn't a hat. Show me where the supreme court ruled against a Jewish kid.
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Yamaka isn't a hat. Show me where the supreme court ruled against a Jewish kid.

Show me public school in Oklahoma that gives a fuck. You want special treatment? Find a special school.
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Have you ever seen a Jewish guy try to wear a yamaka in public schools? Or is this welling up completely and utterly from the depths of your anus?
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Have you ever seen a Jewish guy try to wear a yamaka in public schools? Or is this welling up completely and utterly from the depths of your anus?

This is all a trick question anyways. You should know there are no Jews in Oklahoma.
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I'd like to see evidence that a yamaka can't be worn in any school. There is none. That would be a huge controversy if someone was forced to take their yamaka off, akin to forcing a Christian to remove a cross around their neck.

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I'd like to see evidence that a yamaka can't be worn in any school. There is none. That would be a huge controversy if someone was forced to take their yamaka off, akin to forcing a Christian to remove a cross around their neck.


You can ask a Christian to tuck that cross into their shirt.
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This is America. I'm free to burn Bibles but I'd probably tell someone who told a Christian that to eat a dick.
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This is America. I'm free to burn Bibles but I'd probably tell someone who told a Christian that to eat a dick.

This is Oklahoma. No hats in school! I'm sure there is a nice private Jewish school that will allow you to wear your little hat. Same goes for the Christian with a cross.
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Your redneck is showing.
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Your redneck is showing.

I burn easy, what can I say.
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Gross.
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I'm so grateful that I didn't have to go to a public school
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Wolfgangsta wrote:
Have you ever seen a Jewish guy try to wear a yamaka in public schools? Or is this welling up completely and utterly from the depths of your anus?
There are a ton of jewish kids in our schools. They dont try to wear it because its against school policy. Wolf you are arguing just to argue. Or trying to talk out of your ass. I cant tell right now.
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I'd like to see evidence that a yamaka can't be worn in any school. There is none. That would be a huge controversy if someone was forced to take their yamaka off, akin to forcing a Christian to remove a cross around their neck.

Do some research Wolf there are plenty of cases before the supreme court were they rulled against religon. BTW I dont know if you know this but we have a seperation between church and state.
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Separation of church and state has nothing to do with a student's right to express his own religion. What do you teach? How in the fuck can you not know this?

Yamakas are not "hats" and no school in their right mind would ever ban them. This is one of the stupidest discussions I have ever taken part in.

Further, there are tons of cases where the supreme court rules in favor of religious freedom of expression. Post a shred of evidence.


Go ask somebody with authority in your school. Go.
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http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/religiousexpression.html

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Student garb: Students may display religious messages on items of clothing to the same extent that they are permitted to display other comparable messages. Religious messages may not be singled out for suppression, but rather are subject to the same rules as generally apply to comparable messages. When wearing particular attire, such as yarmulkes and head scarves, during the school day is part of students' religious practice, under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act schools generally may not prohibit the wearing of such items.


You're supposed to be an educator? This is exactly why we're behind the rest of the developed world. No different than when my fucking 8th grade science teacher told me jet and rocket engines were the same thing.
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Further

http://www.religioustolerance.org/sch_clot3.htm


mark I will contact you for payment of my fee regarding today's lesson. I take check, money order or goatsmilk as payment.

At 500 an hour for my tutoring service, my calculations have you owing me 1.2 million dollars, or three million gallons of goatsmilk.
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