Wlad Klitschko vs. Sam Peter - lets score it!

What is Wlad to do?

The opponent runs the entire fight and is in full on survival mode by round 3.

Peter stood in there tonight and he took shots until his body couldn't take any more shots. If guys like Chambers and Chagaev had the guts of Sam Peter they would have been laid out around round 3. But they ran and got stopped late.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

I'd think it's fair to say Wlad's systematic destruction of opponents is kind of boring. Probably some of the more boring dominance I have ever seen. But I respect the shit outta it.

See I am not alone.

Yeah, but partly at fault is the talent depth in the division is abysmal. Absolutely shithouse. If there were guys that could actually push the brothers, there would be more excitement.

WINNA WINNA CHICKEN DINNA!!!!!!!

The complaints are also rich when coming from a defender of TWELVE who also won't fight these two aren't they?

I'll take Haye anyday of the week over Wladimir. I might not respect his decision to face Fraudly but at least he's exciting.

4445Frank wrote:

Hey Marble, I was keeping this a secret, but I knew Jimmy Wilde. I had dinner with Jimmy Wilde. I discussed politics with Jimmy Wilde. I went hunting with Jimmy Wilde. And Mable, Wladamir is no Jimmy Wilde.

TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But he's also NOT the problem here. The top guy NEVER is. The problem is the guys who a) can't beat him b) Can't even get him out of his comfort zone c) Can't even go the distance and d) don't even have the balls to fight him.

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

I'd think it's fair to say Wlad's systematic destruction of opponents is kind of boring. Probably some of the more boring dominance I have ever seen. But I respect the shit outta it.

See I am not alone.

Yeah, but partly at fault is the talent depth in the division is abysmal. Absolutely shithouse. If there were guys that could actually push the brothers, there would be more excitement.

WINNA WINNA CHICKEN DINNA!!!!!!!

The complaints are also rich when coming from a defender of TWELVE who also won't fight these two aren't they?

I'll take Haye anyday of the week over Wladimir. I might not respect his decision to face Fraudly but at least he's exciting.

TWELVETWELVETWELVETWELVETWELVE

captainanddew wrote:

What is Wlad to do?

The opponent runs the entire fight and is in full on survival mode by round 3.

Peter stood in there tonight and he took shots until his body couldn't take any more shots. If guys like Chambers and Chagaev had the guts of Sam Peter they would have been laid out around round 3. But they ran and got stopped late.

Make mince meat of his opponents Ray Austin style instead of hiding behind his jab and reach.

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

I'd think it's fair to say Wlad's systematic destruction of opponents is kind of boring. Probably some of the more boring dominance I have ever seen. But I respect the shit outta it.

See I am not alone.

Yeah, but partly at fault is the talent depth in the division is abysmal. Absolutely shithouse. If there were guys that could actually push the brothers, there would be more excitement.

WINNA WINNA CHICKEN DINNA!!!!!!!

The complaints are also rich when coming from a defender of TWELVE who also won't fight these two aren't they?

I'll take Haye anyday of the week over Wladimir. I might not respect his decision to face Fraudly but at least he's exciting.

LOL, three fights in two years and won't fight the top guys?

I'm hyperventilating from all the excitement!

marbleheadmaui wrote:

4445Frank wrote:

Hey Marble, I was keeping this a secret, but I knew Jimmy Wilde. I had dinner with Jimmy Wilde. I discussed politics with Jimmy Wilde. I went hunting with Jimmy Wilde. And Mable, Wladamir is no Jimmy Wilde.

TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But he's also NOT the problem here. The top guy NEVER is. The problem is the guys who a) can't beat him b) Can't even get him out of his comfort zone c) Can't even go the distance and d) don't even have the balls to fight him.

Nobody can argue with that.

Ali_1748 wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

I'd think it's fair to say Wlad's systematic destruction of opponents is kind of boring. Probably some of the more boring dominance I have ever seen. But I respect the shit outta it.

See I am not alone.

Yeah, but partly at fault is the talent depth in the division is abysmal. Absolutely shithouse. If there were guys that could actually push the brothers, there would be more excitement.

Fair enough, but it doesn't help when the brothers choose to tediously break down their opponents instead of piling on the pressure.

They are what they are. If they lost fights because of fighting too passive, then we could shit on them. Until then, just choose not to watch them fight if you don't want to see it. There have been a couple Brothers fights that I have just skipped because I wasn't in the mood for their style. Still doesn't mean I disrespect their dominance.

kbyte wrote:

Theres no fight I want more right now than Wlad vs Vitali. Wouldn't it be great if their last opponents were each other? Epic......

would look worse than Wlad vs Ibragimov

Ali_1748 wrote:

captainanddew wrote:

What is Wlad to do?

The opponent runs the entire fight and is in full on survival mode by round 3.

Peter stood in there tonight and he took shots until his body couldn't take any more shots. If guys like Chambers and Chagaev had the guts of Sam Peter they would have been laid out around round 3. But they ran and got stopped late.

Make mince meat of his opponents Ray Austin style instead of hiding behind his jab and reach.

DID YOU SEE PETER'S FACE???????????????

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

I'd think it's fair to say Wlad's systematic destruction of opponents is kind of boring. Probably some of the more boring dominance I have ever seen. But I respect the shit outta it.

See I am not alone.

Yeah, but partly at fault is the talent depth in the division is abysmal. Absolutely shithouse. If there were guys that could actually push the brothers, there would be more excitement.

WINNA WINNA CHICKEN DINNA!!!!!!!

The complaints are also rich when coming from a defender of TWELVE who also won't fight these two aren't they?

I'll take Haye anyday of the week over Wladimir. I might not respect his decision to face Fraudly but at least he's exciting.

TWELVETWELVETWELVETWELVETWELVE

Fragomeni,Mormeck,Macrinelli,Barret and Ruiz fights.

your no Kennedy

Quayles dumbass look was priceless when that was said

Birdofthad wrote:

your no Kennedy

Quayles dumbass look was priceless when that was said

4445Frank wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

4445Frank wrote:

Hey Marble, I was keeping this a secret, but I knew Jimmy Wilde. I had dinner with Jimmy Wilde. I discussed politics with Jimmy Wilde. I went hunting with Jimmy Wilde. And Mable, Wladamir is no Jimmy Wilde.

TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But he's also NOT the problem here. The top guy NEVER is. The problem is the guys who a) can't beat him b) Can't even get him out of his comfort zone c) Can't even go the distance and d) don't even have the balls to fight him.

Nobody can argue with that.

Give Ali a coupla minutes

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

captainanddew wrote:

What is Wlad to do?

The opponent runs the entire fight and is in full on survival mode by round 3.

Peter stood in there tonight and he took shots until his body couldn't take any more shots. If guys like Chambers and Chagaev had the guts of Sam Peter they would have been laid out around round 3. But they ran and got stopped late.

Make mince meat of his opponents Ray Austin style instead of hiding behind his jab and reach.

DID YOU SEE PETER'S FACE???????????????

Is Peter's busted up face suppose to impress me or something ? Vitali already done that in 2009.

Birdofthad wrote:

kbyte wrote:

Theres no fight I want more right now than Wlad vs Vitali. Wouldn't it be great if their last opponents were each other? Epic......

would look worse than Wlad vs Ibragimov

lol maybe but I don't care I still want it just for the best vs the best, brother vs brother storyline.

Why should Wlad not fight at a sensible pace for him if it is working? Remember when he went balls to the wall trying to ko Brewster in the first fight? Gassed and kayoed.

Today's Wlad fights his fight and makes it five times easier, and wins instead of losing. Yeah, poo-poo on Wlad, right?

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

I'd think it's fair to say Wlad's systematic destruction of opponents is kind of boring. Probably some of the more boring dominance I have ever seen. But I respect the shit outta it.

See I am not alone.

Yeah, but partly at fault is the talent depth in the division is abysmal. Absolutely shithouse. If there were guys that could actually push the brothers, there would be more excitement.

WINNA WINNA CHICKEN DINNA!!!!!!!

The complaints are also rich when coming from a defender of TWELVE who also won't fight these two aren't they?

I'll take Haye anyday of the week over Wladimir. I might not respect his decision to face Fraudly but at least he's exciting.

TWELVETWELVETWELVETWELVETWELVE

Fragomeni,Mormeck,Macrinelli,Barret and Ruiz fights.

Ali if you could be the least be objective you'd agree Haye is a prime example of what is wrong with the sport. Fights too infrequently, finds reasons NOT to take the biggest possible fights and in his biggest fight he throws 12 punches a round.

Are any of those three things untrue?

Marble, you speak the truth. Ali's frustration is with the level of competition. Nobody can do anything about that, however it does lead to dreadful fights. The Klits can't be blamed for inferior opposition, however we're fans and we want to see exciting fights. It's that simple. I for one am very frustrated watching the Klits. True, they are blameless. It doesn't change the fact that this division sucks.

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

captainanddew wrote:

What is Wlad to do?

The opponent runs the entire fight and is in full on survival mode by round 3.

Peter stood in there tonight and he took shots until his body couldn't take any more shots. If guys like Chambers and Chagaev had the guts of Sam Peter they would have been laid out around round 3. But they ran and got stopped late.

Make mince meat of his opponents Ray Austin style instead of hiding behind his jab and reach.

DID YOU SEE PETER'S FACE???????????????

Is Peter's busted up face suppose to impress me or something ? Vitali already done that in 2009.

Yeah it is. It completely disproves your argument about Wlad leaning back and reaching etc. He POUNDED Peter. POUNDED him.

is Haye going to get in a ring with Wlad?

If he does, is he going to do like most of Wlad's opponents and run????

Wow we have a Dan Quayle reference. You guys are great.

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

Why should Wlad not fight at a sensible pace for him if it is working? Remember when he went balls to the wall trying to ko Brewster in the first fight? Gassed and kayoed.

Today's Wlad fights his fight and makes it five times easier, and wins instead of losing. Yeah, poo-poo on Wlad, right?

People who make the "he oughtta do something different" argument make ZERO sense.

What, Mariano Rivera oughtta throw something other than the cutter because it is boringly effective?

Runners with great kicks oughtt become front runners because nobody can beat them?

It is the guy who is LOSING's job to adjust. Not the guy winning!

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

I'd think it's fair to say Wlad's systematic destruction of opponents is kind of boring. Probably some of the more boring dominance I have ever seen. But I respect the shit outta it.

See I am not alone.

Yeah, but partly at fault is the talent depth in the division is abysmal. Absolutely shithouse. If there were guys that could actually push the brothers, there would be more excitement.

WINNA WINNA CHICKEN DINNA!!!!!!!

The complaints are also rich when coming from a defender of TWELVE who also won't fight these two aren't they?

I'll take Haye anyday of the week over Wladimir. I might not respect his decision to face Fraudly but at least he's exciting.

TWELVETWELVETWELVETWELVETWELVE

Fragomeni,Mormeck,Macrinelli,Barret and Ruiz fights.

Ali if you could be the least be objective you'd agree Haye is a prime example of what is wrong with the sport. Fights too infrequently, finds reasons NOT to take the biggest possible fights and in his biggest fight he throws 12 punches a round.

Are any of those three things untrue?

That's your problem Marble, I am not debating ideology, I am talking about the difference of both mens character inside the ring.

4445Frank wrote:

Marble, you speak the truth. Ali's frustration is with the level of competition. Nobody can do anything about that, however it does lead to dreadful fights. The Klits can't be blamed for inferior opposition, however we're fans and we want to see exciting fights. It's that simple. I for one am very frustrated watching the Klits. True, they are blameless. It doesn't change the fact that this division sucks.

I can't argue much with that. I find Wlad's surgical dominance extremely impressive though. But I'll take Pep and Whittaker and Calderon over watching an Arturo Gatti type every time.