Can we call Wlad the man at HW?

Because of his brother can we call Wlad the man? Also if we can when did he become the man at HW?

I honestly think Vitali is and has been

Sam Peter and Arreolla alone were better opponents than anything Wlad has had in the last 5 years

soonermark890 wrote:

Because of his brother can we call Wlad the man? Also if we can when did he become the man at HW?

I don't know what we do about the Wlad-Vitali situation. I guess I give them a pass.

I think Wlad is the man to the extent the family relationship permits it. As of when? I'll punt and accept Ring Magazine's judgement that he became the man when he defeated Chagaev.

I guess.

I shed a tear for the division if the winner of Klitschko vs Ibragimov tap session is considered the man

Of course. When Wlad #1 defeated Chagaev #2

Birdofthad wrote:

Sam Peter and Arreolla alone were better opponents than anything Wlad has had in the last 5 years

See Vitali is the problem for Wlad to me but did Wlad become the MAN when he beat Chris Bryd?

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Because of his brother can we call Wlad the man? Also if we can when did he become the man at HW?

I don't know what we do about the Wlad-Vitali situation. I guess I give them a pass.

I think Wlad is the man to the extent the family relationship permits it. As of when? I'll punt and accept Ring Magazine's judgement that he became the man when he defeated Chagaev.

I guess.

So he was not the MAN when he beat Bryd?

Wlad became the "man" when he started tagging Hayden. As for being the man in boxing, I begrudgingly give it to him.

The better question is who wins between Big and Baby Bro??? At this point, I take Baby Bro because he will keep Big Bro at bay with the jab (and Vitali isn't the same fighter he was 18 months ago). There will be some tough moments but Baby Bro won't need any tirades from Manny as Big Bro brings out his inner warrior.

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Because of his brother can we call Wlad the man? Also if we can when did he become the man at HW?

I don't know what we do about the Wlad-Vitali situation. I guess I give them a pass.

I think Wlad is the man to the extent the family relationship permits it. As of when? I'll punt and accept Ring Magazine's judgement that he became the man when he defeated Chagaev.

I guess.

So he was not the MAN when he beat Bryd?

Geeze I don't think so. What possible claim to being the man did Chris Byrd ever have? Lennox had become lineal champ when he beat Shannon Briggs.

As much as it hurts me to say this but Wladimir is the man at HW right now

Wlad beat Povetkin, Chagaev, and Chambers, - those three outside of Vitali are likely the best heavyweights in he world.

also Ring world champ.


It's time for the great Vitali to end his career, but it appears he is going to back track on his plan to retire at the end of 2010 and instead face Adamek in 2011.

Byrd is definitely still Wlads biggest win IMO

Byrd is very underrated

This is when he became THE MAN.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Because of his brother can we call Wlad the man? Also if we can when did he become the man at HW?

I don't know what we do about the Wlad-Vitali situation. I guess I give them a pass.

I think Wlad is the man to the extent the family relationship permits it. As of when? I'll punt and accept Ring Magazine's judgement that he became the man when he defeated Chagaev.

I guess.

So he was not the MAN when he beat Bryd?

Geeze I don't think so. What possible claim to being the man did Chris Byrd ever have? Lennox had become lineal champ when he beat Shannon Briggs.

My thing about this is that at the time He was coming off the win over Peter then he took out the longest reigning champ in Chris Byrd. So he now held 3 trinkets. I know that does not mean much but does that not make him the man at that point? I mean in 2005 who was the number 2 behind him? It would have had to be Bryd. Then in 2006 he beat Byrd the number two guy right?

I would look it up but every site I try is blocked by our school.

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Because of his brother can we call Wlad the man? Also if we can when did he become the man at HW?

I don't know what we do about the Wlad-Vitali situation. I guess I give them a pass.

I think Wlad is the man to the extent the family relationship permits it. As of when? I'll punt and accept Ring Magazine's judgement that he became the man when he defeated Chagaev.

I guess.

So he was not the MAN when he beat Bryd?

Geeze I don't think so. What possible claim to being the man did Chris Byrd ever have? Lennox had become lineal champ when he beat Shannon Briggs.

My thing about this is that at the time He was coming off the win over Peter then he took out the longest reigning champ in Chris Byrd. So he now held 3 trinkets. I know that does not mean much but does that not make him the man at that point? I mean in 2005 who was the number 2 behind him? It would have had to be Bryd. Then in 2006 he beat Byrd the number two guy right?

I would look it up but every site I try is blocked by our school.

From Cyberboxingzone-

Year End 2006

Champ: Vacant
1-Wlad Klit
2-Oleg Maskaev
3-Sam Peter
4-James Toney
5-Shannon Briggs
6-Sergei Liakhovich
7-Lamon Brewster
8-Nicolay Valuev
9-Ruslan Chagaev
10-John Ruiz

Year End 2005

Champ: Vacant
1-Chris Byrd
2-Hasim Rahman
3-James Toney
4-Lamon Brewster
5-John Ruiz
6-Monte Barrett
7-Calvin Brock
8-Wlad Klit
9-Sam Peter
10-Nicolay Valuev

Year End 2004

Champ: Vit Klit
1-Chris Byrd
2-John Ruiz
3-Hasim Rahman
4-James Toney
5-Monte Barrett
6-Andrew Golota
7-Fres Oquendo
8-Jameel McCline
9-Corrie Sanders
10-Lamon Brewster

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Because of his brother can we call Wlad the man? Also if we can when did he become the man at HW?

I don't know what we do about the Wlad-Vitali situation. I guess I give them a pass.

I think Wlad is the man to the extent the family relationship permits it. As of when? I'll punt and accept Ring Magazine's judgement that he became the man when he defeated Chagaev.

I guess.

So he was not the MAN when he beat Bryd?

Geeze I don't think so. What possible claim to being the man did Chris Byrd ever have? Lennox had become lineal champ when he beat Shannon Briggs.

My thing about this is that at the time He was coming off the win over Peter then he took out the longest reigning champ in Chris Byrd. So he now held 3 trinkets. I know that does not mean much but does that not make him the man at that point? I mean in 2005 who was the number 2 behind him? It would have had to be Bryd. Then in 2006 he beat Byrd the number two guy right?

I would look it up but every site I try is blocked by our school.

From Cyberboxingzone-

Year End 2006

Champ: Vacant
1-Wlad Klit
2-Oleg Maskaev
3-Sam Peter
4-James Toney
5-Shannon Briggs
6-Sergei Liakhovich
7-Lamon Brewster
8-Nicolay Valuev
9-Ruslan Chagaev
10-John Ruiz

Year End 2005

Champ: Vacant
1-Chris Byrd
2-Hasim Rahman
3-James Toney
4-Lamon Brewster
5-John Ruiz
6-Monte Barrett
7-Calvin Brock
8-Wlad Klit
9-Sam Peter
10-Nicolay Valuev

Year End 2004

Champ: Vit Klit
1-Chris Byrd
2-John Ruiz
3-Hasim Rahman
4-James Toney
5-Monte Barrett
6-Andrew Golota
7-Fres Oquendo
8-Jameel McCline
9-Corrie Sanders
10-Lamon Brewster

So he was ranked that high when Wlad took him out. I thought my memory was correct. But still was he officially the MAN when he beat Byrd?

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

This is when he became THE MAN.

I hate you Wlad. I hate you.

He's the man by default.

WinstonSmith wrote:

He's the man by default.

I dont think that has ever happened in Boxing. LOL

soonermark890 wrote:

WinstonSmith wrote:

He's the man by default.

I dont think that has ever happened in Boxing. LOL

Not a good testimony of the HW division as it now stands.

He officially became the man in 2009.

August 2009

Champ: Wlad Klit
1-Vit Klit
2-Alex Povetkin
3-Eddie Chambers
4-Ruslan Chagev
5-Nicolay Valuev
6-Chris Arreola
7-David Haye
8-John Ruiz
9-Denis Boytsov
10-Alex Dimitrenko

Year End 2008

Champ: Vacant
1-Wlad Klit
2-Vit Klit
3-Ruslan Chagaev
4-Alex Povetkin
5-Nicolay Valuev
6-Sultan Imbragimov
7-Samuel Peter
8-Oleg Maskaev
9-Juan Carlos Gomez
10-Alex Dimitrenko

Year End 2007

Champ: Vacant
1-Wlad Klit
2-Samuel Peter
3-Oleg Maskaev
4-Ruslan Chagaev
5-Nicolay Valuev
6-Sultan Imbragimov
7-Sergei Liakhovich
8-Vladimir Virchis
9-Tony Thompson
10-Alex Povetkin

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

He officially became the man in 2009.

August 2009

Champ: Wlad Klit
1-Vit Klit
2-Alex Povetkin
3-Eddie Chambers
4-Ruslan Chagev
5-Nicolay Valuev
6-Chris Arreola
7-David Haye
8-John Ruiz
9-Denis Boytsov
10-Alex Dimitrenko

Year End 2008

Champ: Vacant
1-Wlad Klit
2-Vit Klit
3-Ruslan Chagaev
4-Alex Povetkin
5-Nicolay Valuev
6-Sultan Imbragimov
7-Samuel Peter
8-Oleg Maskaev
9-Juan Carlos Gomez
10-Alex Dimitrenko

Year End 2007

Champ: Vacant
1-Wlad Klit
2-Samuel Peter
3-Oleg Maskaev
4-Ruslan Chagaev
5-Nicolay Valuev
6-Sultan Imbragimov
7-Sergei Liakhovich
8-Vladimir Virchis
9-Tony Thompson
10-Alex Povetkin

I guess, I just dont understand the reason.

Looking at the fighters on that list makes me want to vomit.

WinstonSmith wrote:

Looking at the fighters on that list makes me want to vomit.

LOL