Negotiations with Floyd never even took place, it's been one big PR campaign by Arum

dmar5143 wrote:

floyd and his goo for ellebee deserve no defence..did hamon and greenburg or ellebee talk to pac at all..negotiations by representatives is the usual norm..floyd backed out..its that simple.there silence threw the several days of arums ticking clock says it all...other fights are happening.thats what counts good fights instead of a make believe fight..

It ASTOUNDS me that there is a single, solitary fan out there who A) thinks this crap matters and B) somehow thinks it exonerates Floyd.

Here are 100% of the relevant facts.

1) Manny, the considerably smaller man, wants to fight Floyd
2) Boxing fans are clamoring for the fight
3) Floyd would make OOOOdles of dough
4) Floyd won't fight.

There is literally NOTHING else that matters.

Give me a fucking break. Mayweather slanders a guy for about a year who has never tested positive for a banned substance and has passed all of the state sanctioned tests he has ever taken, and we're supposed to believe this nonsense? Floyd's his own boss but people do his negotiation? Ellerbe makes a statement saying there were no talks. Then Greenburg, Arum and Haymon ( the money guys and actual negotiators) say there were? Fuck Floyd and his team. Manny agreed to the tests, kow towed to this guy and the guy still makes excuses. 30 million left on the table was the Floyd fan excuse when Pacquaio justifiably refused unsanctioned testing. Well that hyped the fight more and supposedly the fight is worth upwards of 40 for each guy now. This would be the richest fight in boxing history and the guy that calls himself "Money" won't take the fight.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

dmar5143 wrote:

floyd and his goo for ellebee deserve no defence..did hamon and greenburg or ellebee talk to pac at all..negotiations by representatives is the usual norm..floyd backed out..its that simple.there silence threw the several days of arums ticking clock says it all...other fights are happening.thats what counts good fights instead of a make believe fight..

It ASTOUNDS me that there is a single, solitary fan out there who A) thinks this crap matters and B) somehow thinks it exonerates Floyd.

Here are 100% of the relevant facts.

1) Manny, the considerably smaller man, wants to fight Floyd
2) Boxing fans are clamoring for the fight
3) Floyd would make OOOOdles of dough
4) Floyd won't fight.

There is literally NOTHING else that matters.

+10000000000000000000000000000000

I never once said this exonerates Floyd.

Ali_1748 wrote:

I never once said this exonerates Floyd.

And I wasn't referring to you in my generalized rant. Sorry if it came out that way. Not my intention.

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

Give me a fucking break. Mayweather slanders a guy for about a year who has never tested positive for a banned substance and has passed all of the state sanctioned tests he has ever taken, and we're supposed to believe this nonsense? Floyd's his own boss but people do his negotiation? Ellerbe makes a statement saying there were no talks. Then Greenburg, Arum and Haymon ( the money guys and actual negotiators) say there were? Fuck Floyd and his team. Manny agreed to the tests, kow towed to this guy and the guy still makes excuses. 30 million left on the table was the Floyd fan excuse when Pacquaio justifiably refused unsanctioned testing. Well that hyped the fight more and supposedly the fight is worth upwards of 40 for each guy now. This would be the richest fight in boxing history and the guy that calls himself "Money" won't take the fight.

It would really be funny if it wasn't so sad.

Ali_1748 wrote:

How can you negotiate a fight when one of the fighters isn't involved ?

I am not defending Floyd's actions but Arum's made a big deal out this to make Manny look good and smear Floyd.

Bull Shit. I would bet at the time Arum thought Floyd was on board. It looks to me that he just found this out. Besides who gives a shit either way its still FLoyds fault.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

I never once said this exonerates Floyd.

And I wasn't referring to you in my generalized rant. Sorry if it came out that way. Not my intention.

Praise Nigel Benn and all is forgiven

all this was about was getting TopRank.com the most viewers it ever ahd and it worked

when Bob Arum says, "In fairness to Floyd he was never on board with negotiations."

that means "in fairness to Floyd Ive been bullshitting for a while here"

called this a month or so ago

how many people here have "sandered" Barry Bonds

go show me what public test he failed that you all have access and proof of

Ali_1748 wrote:

Canvas wrote:

gomez1012 wrote:

Again

He was INVOLVED, his manager negotiated with HBO and Top Rank, he never agreed to the terms

That damn simple

of course he was. his authorized representatives negotiated on his behalf, made a fair deal, and he refused.

And you have actual proof that Floyd authorized negotiations then declined a deal ?

BinFuckinGO

Birdofthad wrote:

how many people here have "sandered" Barry Bonds

go show me what public test he failed that you all have access and proof of

The FBI does have positive test results from Bonds.

The question is whether Bonds perjured himself. Bonds claims he unknowingly used steroids.

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

I never once said this exonerates Floyd.

And I wasn't referring to you in my generalized rant. Sorry if it came out that way. Not my intention.

Praise Nigel Benn and all is forgiven

I worship the ground the Dark Destroyer trods! I would walk barefoot through flaming broken glass, while listening to a logic course taught by a Flomo and drinking Juan Manuel Marquez's urine at his behest.

The Dark Destroyer, Master of all he surveys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NBrooks5 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

how many people here have "sandered" Barry Bonds

go show me what public test he failed that you all have access and proof of

The FBI does have positive test results from Bonds.

The question is whether Bonds perjured himself. Bonds claims he unknowingly used steroids.

LMAO damn you got to it before me.

NBrooks5 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

how many people here have "sandered" Barry Bonds

go show me what public test he failed that you all have access and proof of

The FBI does have positive test results from Bonds.

The question is whether Bonds perjured himself. Bonds claims he unknowingly used steroids.

and my point is the FBI seized a sealed document, not exactly like everyone knew when it happened

lets not act like Floyd is the only one saying they think Pac is firty

off the top of my head Bradley, Paulie, and Alexander have said they are suspicious

obviously yall dont get my point

Bonds never failed a test persay in the sport he played

every sport protects their own, MB protected 100s, why do you think all the "SpyGate" evidence was destroyed????? (sorry marble)

Birdofthad wrote:

how many people here have "sandered" Barry Bonds

go show me what public test he failed that you all have access and proof of

It isn't slander if it isn't malicious. Read "Game of Shadows" and compare the productivity by age of every other great hitter in history pre 1993 with Bonds career arc.

Oh yeah, the Feds have a drug test Bonds failed.

Birdofthad wrote:

obviously yall dont get my point

Bonds never failed a test persay in the sport he played

every sport protects their own, MB protected 100s, why do you think all the "SpyGate" evidence was destroyed????? (sorry marble)

HEY HEY HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

marbleheadmaui wrote:

It would really be funny if it wasn't so sad.

+1

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

I never once said this exonerates Floyd.

And I wasn't referring to you in my generalized rant. Sorry if it came out that way. Not my intention.

Praise Nigel Benn and all is forgiven

I worship the ground the Dark Destroyer trods! I would walk barefoot through flaming broken glass, while listening to a logic course taught by a Flomo and drinking Juan Manuel Marquez's urine at his behest.

The Dark Destroyer, Master of all he surveys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Atta boy

all im saying is it isnt outside the realm of possibility that a 147 pound Phillipino is using

do i think he is, I hope not cause it will butt fuck the sport, but it isnt outside the realm of sports, especially a shady one like or beloved boxing

if Bob Arum says "Floyd Maywehater Jr was never on board" I dont know what the hell else needs to be said hoenstly

I wish our court system worked like that they couldve been like Mr. Bird here is the pot you were caught with, ok were gonna go destroy it now, see you in court in 2 months

hahaha

Birdofthad wrote:

all im saying is it isnt outside the realm of possibility that a 147 pound Phillipino is using

do i think he is, I hope not cause it will butt fuck the sport, but it isnt outside the realm of sports, especially a shady one like or beloved boxing

if Bob Arum says "Floyd Maywehater Jr was never on board" I dont know what the hell else needs to be said hoenstly

OF COURSE it's a possibility. It is also IRRELEVANT!

So are Arum's actions.

Birdofthad wrote:

all im saying is it isnt outside the realm of possibility that a 147 pound Phillipino is using

do i think he is, I hope not cause it will butt fuck the sport, but it isnt outside the realm of sports, especially a shady one like or beloved boxing

if Bob Arum says "Floyd Maywehater Jr was never on board" I dont know what the hell else needs to be said hoenstly

Yet Oscar said he was. Who do you believe? Floyd's guy or Arum who was going through a third party.

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

I never once said this exonerates Floyd.

And I wasn't referring to you in my generalized rant. Sorry if it came out that way. Not my intention.

Praise Nigel Benn and all is forgiven

I worship the ground the Dark Destroyer trods! I would walk barefoot through flaming broken glass, while listening to a logic course taught by a Flomo and drinking Juan Manuel Marquez's urine at his behest.

The Dark Destroyer, Master of all he surveys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Atta boy

We could transplant 1/16 of his heart and 1/32 of his testes and double Floyd's count on both.

Ok, I'll stop