Fedor Tap Out Deal shot down by dana.

It's very smart, one of your main sponsers wants to sign a 7 figure deal with the fighter you've tried to sign/ and want to sign, you nix the deal, UFC sponsership is better than Fedor sponsership in the long run or at all for that matter, you want those deals Fedor? you know where to come. No one took business classes in school I take it.

The UFC isn't on major netweorks for reasons completely unrelated to business tactics, the UFC wants control, they aren't going to give production rights away.

And any Org that wants to counter program the UFC is playing with fire, not the other way around, give me a break.

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The UFC isn't on major netweorks for reasons completely unrelated to business tactics, the UFC wants control, they aren't going to give production rights away.

That is part of it LA. Many executives at many networks personally don't like Dana for these types of reasons. Wanting to own and completely control the broadcast is arguably another example of the UFC's successful-yet-alienating strategy. This is all stuff you know LA. Keep up.

And if I were the UFC, I'd do the same thing, the money is in PPV anyways, exposure is on major networks, but the UFC still does fine in that.

And if comcast does buy NBC, I believe that was happening, the relations they have with Vs aren't going to hurt.

I don't expect you to keep up

PPV is not sustainable forever, and the industry itself is dying and would be mostly dead in America without the UFC already.

I'd hate to see the PPV market shift and the UFC and ergo MMA suffer because of too many burned bridges in the next five or ten years.

Averaging what 7 of the 10 best selling PPV buyrates for the last 4-5 years among Combat Sports (which includes Pro-Wrestling...) I think they'll be fine.

The UFC is becoming so huge networks will be lining up to make deals eventually.

This story smells funny to me.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

It's very smart, one of your main sponsers wants to sign a 7 figure deal with the fighter you've tried to sign/ and want to sign, you nix the deal, UFC sponsership is better than Fedor sponsership in the long run or at all for that matter, you want those deals Fedor? you know where to come. No one took business classes in school I take it.

The UFC isn't on major netweorks for reasons completely unrelated to business tactics, the UFC wants control, they aren't going to give production rights away.

And any Org that wants to counter program the UFC is playing with fire, not the other way around, give me a break.

I don't know what you took but I took quite a few at A&M. I'm only 2 classes away from a business minor that I'm not going to get.

News flash...Dana White is a prick.

Not going to get? why? anyways I originally wanted to major in Business admin with a marketing concentration, ended up changing because I didn't think I'd get a solid job.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Not going to get? why? anyways I originally wanted to major in Business admin with a marketing concentration, ended up changing because I didn't think I'd get a solid job.

Because it'll force me to stay in school another semester. Its not worth it to me. I'm going to be able to land a solid job without it.

What's ur major?

Farmer1906 wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

It's very smart, one of your main sponsers wants to sign a 7 figure deal with the fighter you've tried to sign/ and want to sign, you nix the deal, UFC sponsership is better than Fedor sponsership in the long run or at all for that matter, you want those deals Fedor? you know where to come. No one took business classes in school I take it.

The UFC isn't on major netweorks for reasons completely unrelated to business tactics, the UFC wants control, they aren't going to give production rights away.

And any Org that wants to counter program the UFC is playing with fire, not the other way around, give me a break.

I don't know what you took but I took quite a few at A&M. I'm only 2 classes away from a business minor that I'm not going to get.

You should fail if you think that was dumb on UFC's part. You suck at business! After you get your degree, don't hang with the old vet on the car lot. He isn't your friend!

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Farmer1906 wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

It's very smart, one of your main sponsers wants to sign a 7 figure deal with the fighter you've tried to sign/ and want to sign, you nix the deal, UFC sponsership is better than Fedor sponsership in the long run or at all for that matter, you want those deals Fedor? you know where to come. No one took business classes in school I take it.

The UFC isn't on major netweorks for reasons completely unrelated to business tactics, the UFC wants control, they aren't going to give production rights away.

And any Org that wants to counter program the UFC is playing with fire, not the other way around, give me a break.

I don't know what you took but I took quite a few at A&M. I'm only 2 classes away from a business minor that I'm not going to get.

You should fail if you think that was dumb on UFC's part. You suck at business! After you get your degree, don't hang with the old vet on the car lot. He isn't your friend!

You need to reread my posts on the matter.

Farmer1906 wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Farmer1906 wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

It's very smart, one of your main sponsers wants to sign a 7 figure deal with the fighter you've tried to sign/ and want to sign, you nix the deal, UFC sponsership is better than Fedor sponsership in the long run or at all for that matter, you want those deals Fedor? you know where to come. No one took business classes in school I take it.

The UFC isn't on major netweorks for reasons completely unrelated to business tactics, the UFC wants control, they aren't going to give production rights away.

And any Org that wants to counter program the UFC is playing with fire, not the other way around, give me a break.

I don't know what you took but I took quite a few at A&M. I'm only 2 classes away from a business minor that I'm not going to get.

You should fail if you think that was dumb on UFC's part. You suck at business! After you get your degree, don't hang with the old vet on the car lot. He isn't your friend!

You need to reread my posts on the matter.

Heh heh It was the beer or the bean soup? The last post made me think about all of the business college grads who didn't make any money when I sold cars with them. That's all. Nothing against you my man. You and LA are both wrong and I am right either way no matter what the topic is because I rule!

PS I think Wolf has sex with dogs and kills them afterwards........and has sex with them again.

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completely agree Ali Zuffa is like the big bully kid in class, they run shit for know

but one day they are going to get their pants pulled down in front of the whole class and get the shit knocked out of them

Bird, you may be right, but that same bully will catch you the next day and beat the shit out of you for the pain you caused him. Do I think the UFC is beatable as an organization? Yes, I do. But you would have to spend upwards f 3 billion dollars to beat them, when it would be cheaper to buy them.

agree Andrew but I am of the belief that 1 of 2 things will happen

1 UFC and Zuffa will bite off more than they can chew on a loan and it will all come crashing down (which I dont want)

or 2

these fighters will fucking wisen up and make their own league and actually get paid what they are due

UFC 6 made 15 million dollars in profit

they have been capable of paying these fighters what they are due for a long time, they just wont. One day these guys will wisen up and all jump ship, I expect it to be a fighter that actually pays other fighters i.e. De La Hoya with GBP (sure they fuck up alot but they pay their fighters)

The UFC will always be the big dog, they will only get bigger

Now does not = Know

sorry LA i always fuck those 2 up

Birdofthad wrote:

agree Andrew but I am of the belief that 1 of 2 things will happen

1 UFC and Zuffa will bite off more than they can chew on a loan and it will all come crashing down (which I dont want)

or 2

these fighters will fucking wisen up and make their own league and actually get paid what they are due

UFC 6 made 15 million dollars in profit

they have been capable of paying these fighters what they are due for a long time, they just wont. One day these guys will wisen up and all jump ship, I expect it to be a fighter that actually pays other fighters i.e. De La Hoya with GBP (sure they fuck up alot but they pay their fighters)

Though I think the GBP thing is possible, I think it unlikely. I keep hearing these crazy numbers and though I believe the numbers may not be far off, I think fanboys and fighters do not see the whole picture. Yes the ownership group needs to make profit on their piece of the pie and they should, they own it. However, a lot of people fail to understand that quite a few fighters have PPV points in their contracts, which means they get a piece of the PPV buys in which they compete. We know for a fact Randy Couture, Spider, GSP, Brock, BJ Penn, and a few notable others all have this clause and make a hell of a lot more than their reported salaries to the athletic commissions. In addition, Zuffa takes really good care of their fighters in other ways. Medical bills have their tab or large portions of their tabs picked up quite often, guys who have been known to take a screwing by the judges get bonus checks they are not contractually due. A good example of the latter is when Shogun Rua lost to Machida, Dana gave him a $200K check anyway and pushed for the rematch on his behalf.

In addition, their are a hell of a lot more employs who are not fighters who have salaries, insurance, travel expenses, etc.

If the UFC has a revenue of say 15 Million dollars on a PPV, that sounds great, but that is not the same thing as profit. After the fighters and staff have been paid, you have to deduct for the expenses you shelled out to put on the show. Hotel rooms, per diems, rent, insurance, promotion, and a hundred other ancillary things that have to be paid for. Fighters and fans can sit on their backsides and bitch and moan with the best of them about the lack of fighter payouts, but these guys who get paid the least, like 2 grand to lose in the first match of the night? That is a hell of a lot better than they pay in boxing. I know for a fact that here in Alabama and to a lesser degree Atlanta and New Orleans, the biggest payment for local club fight is about $250-$300 for the winner of the main event. There are 8-10 fights a night and the loser from the first bout generally gets $10 and a sandwich. In Vegas, LA, NY, Boston, and Miami the biggest pay out I have heard for a non-main event fighter was $400 for going the entire 8 rounds. Though I am sure there are higher ones, those are the ones I know of.

However! I have earned $500 just for refereeing "wrestling" matches in the area. Of course, since the local announcer said after the match that I may never walk again, after the "attack" and I was bleeding, I felt it only fair that they pay me what they pay me. Fortunately, I was still able to go to work the next Monday.