Could Tim Kennedy, Jacare Souza, Robbie Lawler, or Mayhem Miller be contenders in the UFC

The fight game isn't always about the best fighter of the bunch. Carwin has a single quality win he only got after he was granted a title shot while far younger and more explosive JDS and Cain Velesquez are waiting on the sideline.


Anyway Kennedy is the best fighter of the bunch. IMO.

Carwin is great and is finsihes guys with ease

Carwin is great and finishes nobodies with ease. Brett Rogers has the same sort of finishes against the same compeititon Carwin faced until Mir.


I like Shane, but sometimes I wish both he and Brock would lose their next five fights in a row to teach kneejerk reactionary fruitcakes a lession.

And we all wish you would just come to the realization that both guys are legit

When have I said they weren't legit?

I feel the exact same way as Wolfy about both Brock and Carwin.

Show me some love then.

Sooners hates them though, of course he'd say that

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Sooners hates them though, of course he'd say that

I don't hate Carwin, I hate Brock. That is why I usually try to stay out of it. But I like Carwin he is cool. I just haven't seen enough to call either guy elite IMO. Just not something I'm willing to do yet for either guy. Not the guy I hate or the guy I like. A win here helps but even with that the winner isn't 100% sold in my book.

Who could beat them?

We'll answer with names like Bigfoot, Werdum, Nelson, Cain, Fedor ect and you'll just say we're stupid and crazy and no one can beat the hulk twins and start a deeper argument.


So speaking on behalf of sooners ;


LA they're unbeatable superheros and no one can touch them.





I learned this tool when talking to kids about Santa. Sure, he is real, now shut up and be good.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Who could beat them?

What makes you so sure they are both top 3 in the world right now? With how new they both are to the top level of competition? I'm just saying I want to see both guys win more fights at an elite level.

It's just common sense, look at what they are, my god stop with this childish "Superhero" bullshit.

Bigfoot, Werdum, and Roy would get destroyed

sooners did you smoke logic weed today? Good form.

Fedor, Reem, Dos Santos, Cain and Barnett from 2 years ago, not even sure I believe some of those guys could.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Fedor, Reem, Dos Santos, Cain and Barnett from 2 years ago, not even sure I believe some of those guys could.

What makes us so crazy for waiting to buy in? Not jumping at a couple big moments? I don't see how not being sold yet makes us crazy. How is what JDS has done much different?

Wolfgangsta wrote:

sooners did you smoke logic weed today? Good form.

no, but I am pretty baked lol

JDS is one of my favorite fighters, but guys fighting either of these two would be at significant size and strength disadvantages, they can put anyone in the World on their back.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

JDS is one of my favorite fighters, but guys fighting either of these two would be at significant size and strength disadvantages, they can put anyone in the World on their back.

They have proved that just as much as JDS has proved he can put anyone to sleep standing.

Never put CC to sleep. Broke his skull, but never to sleep.

JDS hasn't proved he could stop a takedown let alone against of of these two, I can knock a fighter I'm a big fan of against two guys I'm not fans of.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

JDS hasn't proved he could stop a takedown let alone against of of these two, I can knock a fighter I'm a big fan of against two guys I'm not fans of.

I'm not just going on gorilla looks alone. I'm just going to wait and see before I crown either man top dog of the HW world(minus Fedor). They keep winning and I won't have any choice but to accept it.

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JDS hasn't proved he could stop a takedown let alone against of of these two, I can knock a fighter I'm a big fan of against two guys I'm not fans of.

Brock and Shane haven't proved they can take real punishment, let alone from this guy.

Flipside every coin does have Luke.

They may never have to

For every Mark Coleman, comes a Maurice Smith.


Still ultimately I think JDS may represent an endangered species in MMA if this trend of big wrestlers represents more than a temporary phase.