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PostSubject: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 10:57 pm

LW is obviously Guida IMO

LHW is Vera

MW maybe Bisping?

Fill out the rest
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How dare you insult The Count like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 11:01 pm

Haha, help me out, who you got at in each division?
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 11:02 pm

HW is probably Kongo.
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 11:03 pm

Cro Cop was for a while there

Jens Pulver was at WEC
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 11:04 pm

Kongo at ain't bad for HW
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 11:04 pm

HW-Kongo
LHW-Jardine
LW-Guida
MW- thats a tough 1 lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 11:05 pm

How about Alan Belcher for Middleweight ?
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 11:07 pm

No it's Bisping
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 11:08 pm

MW-Nobody gets a shot after beating Bisping. Marqaurdt loss to Leites for Thales a title shot and Marquardt loss to Sonnen is going to get Sonnen a title shot. Marquardt has already lost convincingly to Anderson Silva and would not beat Anderson. Marquardt while #3 in the division and top 5 overall is the closest thing to a true gatekeepr in the UFC all things considered. I consider a gatekeeper to be someone with the key to the top but could not take the throne...this is Marquardt.

LHW- Jardine. Guys seem to be immediatley in the discussion after beating him but it may now be going to Brandon Vera.

HW: Gabriel Gonzaga and Chieck Kongo

WW: Mike Swick. Dan Hardy and Paulo Thiago finally got some respect as top WW's after defeating him.

LW: Clay Guida and Joe Stevenson
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 11:08 pm

I thought about Alan but I still think he has the skills to be a champ someday.
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timthebim wrote:
I thought about Alan but I still think he has the skills to be a champ someday.

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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 11:09 pm

Maybe not Champ, but a top contender, he's pretty good
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Mick Swick and Joe Stevenson are good calls King.
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 11:14 pm

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MW-Nobody gets a shot after beating Bisping. Marqaurdt loss to Leites for Thales a title shot and Marquardt loss to Sonnen is going to get Sonnen a title shot. Marquardt has already lost convincingly to Anderson Silva and would not beat Anderson. Marquardt while #3 in the division and top 5 overall is the closest thing to a true gatekeepr in the UFC all things considered. I consider a gatekeeper to be someone with the key to the top but could not take the throne...this is Marquardt.

LHW- Jardine. Guys seem to be immediatley in the discussion after beating him but it may now be going to Brandon Vera.

HW: Gabriel Gonzaga and Chieck Kongo

WW: Mike Swick. Dan Hardy and Paulo Thiago finally got some respect as top WW's after defeating him.

LW: Clay Guida and Joe Stevenson

Good list, but IDK about MW being Nate, it's not necessarily the guy who is the fight just before a Title shot, I think Bisping fits the bill, or Okami

Vera hasn't taken it from Jardine IMO
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 11:17 pm

Apparently Nate turned down the chance to face Bisping at 114.

If I was Micheal I would be thanking god for that blessing.
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 11:18 pm

Nate would steamroll Bisping, Nate wants a better fight

Wandy/Akiyama winner?
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 11:24 pm

That makes sense although Wandi was keen on a Bisping rematch for some bizarre reason. Must be unhappy about failing to knock him out.
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 11:25 pm

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KingsOwn19 wrote:
MW-Nobody gets a shot after beating Bisping. Marqaurdt loss to Leites for Thales a title shot and Marquardt loss to Sonnen is going to get Sonnen a title shot. Marquardt has already lost convincingly to Anderson Silva and would not beat Anderson. Marquardt while #3 in the division and top 5 overall is the closest thing to a true gatekeepr in the UFC all things considered. I consider a gatekeeper to be someone with the key to the top but could not take the throne...this is Marquardt.

LHW- Jardine. Guys seem to be immediatley in the discussion after beating him but it may now be going to Brandon Vera.

HW: Gabriel Gonzaga and Chieck Kongo

WW: Mike Swick. Dan Hardy and Paulo Thiago finally got some respect as top WW's after defeating him.

LW: Clay Guida and Joe Stevenson

Good list, but IDK about MW being Nate, it's not necessarily the guy who is the fight just before a Title shot, I think Bisping fits the bill, or Okami

Vera hasn't taken it from Jardine IMO

Bisping is a good one and it's definetly hard to call Nate a gatekeeper but in the current landscape of the division with Anderson as champ, that may be the case. The thing about Bisping is that he's fought guys well established in their spot. Dan Henderson didnt really move up upon beating Bisping he pretty much just kept his spot and Wanderlei did not really shoot up the ranks eitheir because he's fighting Akiyama who is in Bisping territory as far as rankings and such. Perhaps Okami would be a better choice as Sonnen's win against him shot him all the way up to a fight with the top contender in the division and Okami is not likely to be fighting near the top of the UFC ranks in the near future.
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 9:53 pm

Well Hendo is ranked number 2 on most MW rankings and that was after beating Bisping. I think Bisping qualifies as a gatekeeper. Belcher is to hot and cold, I can see him win any fight depending on the night.

lw- guida

ww- Matt Hughes

lhw- Jardine

hw- kongo
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 10:51 pm

all jardine is now .. is the gatekeeper to fight Rashararard.

So I think Bader gets rashad next after Rampage who beat jardine before this fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 11:59 pm

Good lists, but over all I never liked the term or concept of "gate keeper" that much since I like to think of MMA as a fluid sport where today's top 15 opponent is tomorrow's champion.

Former champions are often relegated to gatekeeper status in the tail end of their careers. Hughes, Liddell, and Franklin have all been scraped off the canvas after bouts with immediate title contenders. Rich Franklin has been a gatekeeper for MW.
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptyTue Mar 23, 2010 6:36 am

Yeah, Golbez makes a good point. Shad didn't look good in his last fight, which he won! His opponent got more props than he did and now his chin looks questionable. Shad may not be quite a gatekeeper, but if he keeps fighting like he has, he will be.
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PostSubject: Re: Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC:   Gate Keeper at each division in the UFC: EmptyTue Mar 23, 2010 12:08 pm

I think Okami is a good MW gatekeeper. That is who Rich beat to get his rematch with Anderson. And when Sonnen beat him that is when he got the #1 contender fight with Nate on the main card. Plus Okami did his part of keeping pretenders out of contending. He beat Swick after he went 5-0 in the UFC and now Swick is not even contending at a lower division. He beat Macdonald when people gave him some hype for beating the TUF stars. Now Macdonald isn't even in the UFC.
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