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PostSubject: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 3:31 am

He was pretty gassed by the end of that third round. Lets say Anderson gets past Vitor. I dont think Sonnen would be able to GNP for 5 solid rounds. He was still exhausted passed out on the floor in his dressing room. Not to mention Anderson is much better on his back than Nate is.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 3:35 am

No, but he might be able to win a decision if he doesn't get overly aggressive on his feet. It'll be a good test for Anderson but I still think he's on a much higher level than Sonnen.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 3:40 am

I think its possible. I think Sonnen gassing had to do with the massive amount of blood he lost and that unbelievable tight guillotine he had to fight out of at the end of the fight.

He has a pretty solid beard so he could take some of Anderson's strikes as long as he doesn't pull a Hendo. Chael better get some BJJ experts in his camp though and work on defending submissions because Anderson has a very dangerous guard.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 3:42 am

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I think its possible. I think Sonnen gassing had to do with the massive amount of blood he lost and that unbelievable tight guillotine he had to fight out of at the end of the fight.

He has a pretty solid beard
so he could take some of Anderson's strikes as long as he doesn't pull a Hendo. Chael better get some BJJ experts in his camp though and work on defending submissions because Anderson has a very dangerous guard.

Yea Nate caught him with a really hard shot at the beginning of the second round that didnt seem to faze him.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 5:26 am

Nate also landed some huge shots at the end that really rocked him.

Another question, could Anderson survive Chael's top game for five rounds?
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 9:46 am

Anderson's footwork is incredible. He'll stay outside, away from a legitimate shot from Sonnen, and pick him apart. I predict a first round TKO.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 1:37 pm

chorky777 wrote:
Anderson's footwork is incredible. He'll stay outside, away from a legitimate shot from Sonnen, and pick him apart. I predict a first round TKO.

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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 1:45 pm

chorky777 wrote:
Anderson's footwork is incredible. He'll stay outside, away from a legitimate shot from Sonnen, and pick him apart. I predict a first round TKO.

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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 1:46 pm

I've been anti sonnen, and though i have to give him credit for a great fight, I think he gets KO'd early.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 1:55 pm

What I'm having a hard time figuring out is was Marquardt really bad off his back or was Sonnen just making him look bad. That first round GNP was as close to uncontested from guard as I've seen in a while.

We all know Henderson was pretty successful utilizing wrestling against silva, but I'm not sure Hendo could've dominated Nate like Sonnen did. Though, Silva has so many weapons that all play against Sonnen's weaknesses. Striking, footwork, speed, and BJJ, in my opinion, add up to more ways that Silva wins a potential fight than Sonnen does with his wrestling and GNP.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 2:01 pm

In line with Chaoscamel here. And it wasn't just how Nate looked off his back. I mean, doesn't Nate train with GSP, he should be acclimated to high level wrestling. Shouldn't he have developed some level of takedown defense? Wasn't he aware of what Sonnen was going to do?

I was impressed by Sonnen, but very down on Nate's performance.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 2:27 pm

Henderson was on top of him for an entire round and even got side control but wasnt able to inflict any damage at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 2:50 pm

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Henderson was on top of him for an entire round and even got side control but wasnt able to inflict any damage at all.

True, but watching Sonnen's gnp last night made me think that he might have more success. Although we haven't really seen Silva from his back very often, so his defense against Hendo might be indicative of what Sonnen would look like. In my opinion though, this is an intriguing matchup.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 2:53 pm

Anderson could easily sub Chael off his back
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 3:13 pm

ChaoscamelWV wrote:
What I'm having a hard time figuring out is was Marquardt really bad off his back or was Sonnen just making him look bad. That first round GNP was as close to uncontested from guard as I've seen in a while.

We all know Henderson was pretty successful utilizing wrestling against silva, but I'm not sure Hendo could've dominated Nate like Sonnen did. Though, Silva has so many weapons that all play against Sonnen's weaknesses. Striking, footwork, speed, and BJJ, in my opinion, add up to more ways that Silva wins a potential fight than Sonnen does with his wrestling and GNP.

The difference is that Hendo would strike with Nate. Sonnen is willing to lay on his opponent for the entire fight and grind out a decision if necessary. Hendo wants to land a big right. If he wanted to play the blanket role against Nate he probably could.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 3:28 pm

Sonnen has an obvious weakness against submissions and was almost dead in the water last night so I think if he got too agressive in his top game its very likely that Anderson would sub him at some point. Its big so long since Anderson's been in a fight though, you wonder what state he would be in if Chael could smother and really pound on him for a couple rounds
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 8:01 pm

First off, I've never been impressed with Hendo's GNP. His wrestling is awesome, but I've never seen him maul someone like Chael. Chael is just as good a wrestler except with better GNP, but worse stand-up.

Is Silva's BJJ better than Marquardt or Dan Miller? Is it in league with world class guys Paulo Filho and Demian Maia?

Anderson faces his toughest year with Vitor and Chael.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 10:37 pm

I'd say Silva's better off his back than Marquardt and Miller, but I don't think it'll matter all that much. I don't think Chael's getting Anderson down.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptySun Feb 07, 2010 10:56 pm

chorky777 wrote:
I'd say Silva's better off his back than Marquardt and Miller, but I don't think it'll matter all that much. I don't think Chael's getting Anderson down.

I think he can get him down but it wont be easy and trying to keep him down for 5 rounds will be a tough task. But the thing is once he gets him down he is still in danger and Anderson is great off his back defensively against GNP. He can do that body triangle from his back and has decent subs as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptyMon Feb 08, 2010 8:40 am

If Sonnen comes in motivated, which I think he will it will be nullified by his bad mouthing of Silva, who will be equally motivated. As far as all the wrestling and GNP, that is the trademark of Team Quest, so it should have come as no surprise whatsoever to Nate.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptyMon Feb 08, 2010 10:32 am

sonnen is the new dan henderson we just need to see that overhand right. I hate the guy but he proved himself thats for sure and could give anderson trouble on the ground.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptyMon Feb 08, 2010 11:24 am

That overhand right cost him wins against Rampage and maybe Anderson Silva. If he sticks to wrestling, then he could have won those fights. Chael needs to stick to wrestling and GnP.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptyMon Feb 08, 2010 1:26 pm

Ok, I don't know what's going on here. I hope people will start calming down with this Chael Sonnen crap pretty soon. He had a great fight against Marquardt, but guess what. Marquardt is a wrestler who was overcommitted on his striking and got put on his back. Marquardt has never had great skills off his back. Sonnen has LOTS of trouble with people who are good off their backs. And let's not forget that he lost less than a year ago by getting ragdolled to the ground by Demian Maia. I really want that loss avenged before he gets any shot at Anderson. He needs to show that he's fixed his weak top control over guys with good hips before he's fighting the champ.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptyMon Feb 08, 2010 2:02 pm

Way too much love for Sonnen. This is just a knee jerk reaction to his solid win. Anderson and Hendo both easily beat Sonnen.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds?   Could Sonnen GNP Anderson for 5 rounds? EmptyMon Feb 08, 2010 2:27 pm

Farmer1906 wrote:
Way too much love for Sonnen. This is just a knee jerk reaction to his solid win. Anderson and Hendo both easily beat Sonnen.

Easily? I dont think they would easily beat Sonnen. People said that Nate was going to run through him also.
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