Kampmann should get an interim title shot

I scored the shields fight for shields, and I just watched the diego fight once knowing the result, and scored it for diego but I prolly was bias and did it just cause I am a hater. I'll have to rewatch it.

This last fight was awesome though. And fuck the crowd for booing Kampmann like that was an early stoppage, Ellenberger was sucking his thumb and curled up in a little ball.

I had Diego beating Kampmann.

freakzilla wrote:

I had Diego beating Kampmann.

+1

I think anyone that scored that fight for Diego has to have some kind of bias going in. The amount of damage taken should trump any amount of takedowns or octagon control. Damage at that level should be weighted very, very heavy. IMO it's not even a debatable subject. Sanchez got his ass beat, lost the fight. I couldn't sleep at night if I said the phrase "Diego beat Martin."

Diego won by 10 point must system this isn't Pride rules.

Ali wrote:

Diego won by 10 point must system this isn't Pride rules.

I question whether you are missing a chromosome. Any system that concludes that Deigo won that fight is just LOL. There is no possible way to justify Deigo winning that fight.

Yes, I'm saying you have to be a retard to consider Deigo the winner or that fight. Neg that Scotty.

OU wrote:

Yes, I'm saying you have to be a retard to consider Deigo the winner or that fight. Neg that Scotty.

I scored it 2-1 for Diego, he outworked Kampmann IMO.

If that makes me a retard then so be it, I wasn't the only person who thought Diego won the fight.

Ali wrote:

OU wrote:

Yes, I'm saying you have to be a retard to consider Deigo the winner or that fight. Neg that Scotty.

I scored it 2-1 for Diego, he outworked Kampmann IMO.

If that makes me a retard then so be it, I wasn't the only person who thought Diego won the fight.

Out working someone while getting your ass beat in the process should not win you a fight. Just because you can take an ass whooping and keep on moving forward doesn't mean you deserve to win the fight. It means you deserve credit for your heart. But Kampmann won that fight. It's the overwhelming consensus of the fight.

That's your opinion I respect it but I ain't going to label you a retard because of it.

Ali wrote:

That's your opinion I respect it but I ain't going to label you a retard because of it.

I stand by what I said.

http://blog.fightmetric.com/2011/03/sanchez-vs-kampmann-official-ufc.html

Rounds two and three were very close, with round three being dead even in total strikes. Diego was coming forward(aggression and octagon control) as well as landing better in the second and third rounds. It's not a crime to say he won the fight.

It was like the Machida-Rampage fight. Rampage won 2 rounds so he got the decision but if the whole fight was 1 rd then Machida wins it. Same as the Diego-Kampmann fight.

Ludo wrote:

http://blog.fightmetric.com/2011/03/sanchez-vs-kampmann-official-ufc.html

Rounds two and three were very close, with round three being dead even in total strikes. Diego was coming forward(aggression and octagon control) as well as landing better in the second and third rounds. It's not a crime to say he won the fight.

Fightmetrix alone is an awful way to determine a score. Damage>control. Always should be. Pushing forward and getting punched in the face is not octagon control. IMO this is the worst dec I have ever seen in MMA. I don't agree with any scoring system that gives that fight to Diego. It was robbery. The most significant actions in the fight were done by Martin. No amount of aggression by Deigo can make up for the amount of clean strikes he took to the face. I completely disagree with anyone that says this fights outcome is debatable.

I'll go as far to say it's bad for the sport of MMA to even consider Diego as possibly winning that fight. I don't know if you are over thinking the rules or what. I don't know why anyone would attempt to reach that far. You can't call Sanchez the winner of that fight. Any rules that claim otherwise are just wrong.

Martin did virtually all of his major damage in round one of that fight. Diego wasn't being hit as cleanly in the following rounds and started landing his own punches. Martin allowed himself to be dragged into a dirty dogfight and that favors the wild brawler every time.

Ludo wrote:

Martin did virtually all of his major damage in round one of that fight. Diego wasn't being hit as cleanly in the following rounds and started landing his own punches. Martin allowed himself to be dragged into a dirty dogfight and that favors the wild brawler every time.

I'm sorry you were fooled by Diego's heart and determination. Admirable, but I personally think you are crazy for even considering Diego to possibly to be the winner of that fight. That's the nicest way I can put it.

That's an awfully nice way to put it, but you saying things like it's bad for the sport for anyone to think Diego could have possibly taken the fight is right up there with that time Kings was saying it wasn't even controversial for Condit to have won over Nick Diaz. That's about the nicest way I can put it as well.

Ludo wrote:

That's an awfully nice way to put it, but you saying things like it's bad for the sport for anyone to think Diego could have possibly taken the fight is right up there with that time Kings was saying it wasn't even controversial for Condit to have won over Nick Diaz. That's about the nicest way I can put it as well.

It's a crime against humanity. You shorten the life of every living thing on Earth just by entertaining the thought. You move the Zombie Apocalypse up 6 days and 3 hours every time you even think about thinking about it. Everytime you had that thought, Jesus wept.

Every time you say these things, a bunny is struck with a hammer. Seven baby seals are clubbed each time you hold fast to your stance here. When you call Me crazy you contract a little more aids in your big toe with each claim. For every post on this subject you make four delicious tacos mysteriously disappear from this earth. Do you want all that on your conscience?

Ludo wrote:

Every time you say these things, a bunny is struck with a hammer. Seven baby seals are clubbed each time you hold fast to your stance here. When you call Me crazy you contract a little more aids in your big toe with each claim. For every post on this subject you make four delicious tacos mysteriously disappear from this earth. Do you want all that on your conscience?

Don't you put that on me Ricky Bobby.

I got Hendricks over Kampmann in the pecking order right now, but it is close. Tightest divisional race in the org right now after LW. A lot of parity and close competition near the top these days.

GDPofDRC wrote:

I got Hendricks over Kampmann in the pecking order right now, but it is close. Tightest divisional race in the org right now. A lot of parity and close competition near the top these days.

I think Martin is closer to the level of Rory McDonald. Seems like a logical matchup IMO.

There are a few ways to score Diego v Kampmann without factoring 10-10 rounds.

30-26 Kman
30-27 Kman
29-27 Kman
29-28 Kman
28-28 Draw
29-28 Diego

The most likely being the ones in the middles. The judges were absolutely fucking terrible giving it to Diego. Now the Shields fight is another story. I think Jake snuck our with a victory.