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PostSubject: Re: JDS will beat Cain   JDS will beat Cain - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 1:29 pm

Closer to losing =/= losing. He took big shots from a guy who has KO hands and bounced the fak up to straight dominate. Chin? Check.
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Closer to losing =/= losing. He took big shots from a guy who has KO hands and bounced the fak up to straight dominate. Chin? Check.
Dropped multiple times by a guy with inferior standup to JDS. Standup adtvantage JDS? check.
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PostSubject: Re: JDS will beat Cain   JDS will beat Cain - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 1:40 pm

Stand up ..... Push. Proof is in the fights.
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PostSubject: Re: JDS will beat Cain   JDS will beat Cain - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 1:41 pm

lol Even Brock Finished Carwin.....
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PostSubject: Re: JDS will beat Cain   JDS will beat Cain - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 1:43 pm

You are in for a serious wake up call. But that is the reason I created this thread.
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PostSubject: Re: JDS will beat Cain   JDS will beat Cain - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 1:47 pm

You made the thread but have yet to offer a single reason as to how JDS beats Cain. Cain has way more ways to win. He is faster, more dynamically athletic, is dominant at the most dominant Martial Art in today's MMA, has better coaches to teach him, has same level striking ability and greater striking effectiveness, has the better cardio, has been tested in combat and flurished. Dos Santos is gonna do what at this point should be no surprise to anyone, lose easily.
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PostSubject: Re: JDS will beat Cain   JDS will beat Cain - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 1:50 pm

While i think JDS has better stand up, he is NO way LEVELS above Cain! and that doesn't mean that JDS won't knock his head off...
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PostSubject: Re: JDS will beat Cain   JDS will beat Cain - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 1:51 pm

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You made the thread but have yet to offer a single reason as to how JDS beats Cain. Cain has way more ways to win. He is faster, more dynamically athletic, is dominant at the most dominant Martial Art in today's MMA, has better coaches to teach him, has same level striking ability and greater striking effectiveness, has the better cardio, has been tested in combat and flurished. Dos Santos is gonna do what at this point should be no surprise to anyone, lose easily.
I don't understand how you can say the proof is in the fights that the standup is a push when JDS has outclassed everyone on the feet and you can't say the same about Cain. Only one of these men have been dropped and hurt badly on the feet in the UFC and it was Cain.
Does Cain have faster hands? I don't think so. I'm sure he could beat JDS in the 40 and probably has a better vertical but when it comes to hand speed I don't buy Cain as the faster fighter. Cain is the better athlete, but right now JDS is the better fighter. I'm sure Cain will be able to get this fight to the ground but there will be plenty of action on the feet. That is where JDS has the clear advantage and that is where he will beat Cain and eventually stop him.
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PostSubject: Re: JDS will beat Cain   JDS will beat Cain - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 1:52 pm

Catch him, JDS can catch him, that's how I can see him winning, a catch. Cain winning is more stable than a catch. His fight to lose. -150 is robbery, get it while you can.
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PostSubject: Re: JDS will beat Cain   JDS will beat Cain - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 1:54 pm

3:55 round 1, TKO, one second faster then Cormier stopped Silva.
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PostSubject: Re: JDS will beat Cain   JDS will beat Cain - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 1:54 pm

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Catch him, JDS can catch him, that's how I can see him winning, a catch. Cain winning is more stable than a catch. His fight to lose. -150 is robbery, get it while you can.
Catching would imply that he wouldn't do it again or that it wasn't a display of superior striking, which it will be. There will be no question after this fight that JDS is clearly the better standup fighter. No doubt in my mind.
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Catch him, JDS can catch him, that's how I can see him winning, a catch. Cain winning is more stable than a catch. His fight to lose. -150 is robbery, get it while you can.
I think I heard these kind of claims before about a fight that happened not too long ago. That is just an insane statement to make.
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If Roy Nelson can stand there not even moving and lump up JDS... Cain will drop him.
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Catch him, JDS can catch him, that's how I can see him winning, a catch. Cain winning is more stable than a catch. His fight to lose. -150 is robbery, get it while you can.
I think I heard these kind of claims before about a fight that happened not too long ago. That is just an insane statement to make.

Not by me if you are talking about Diaz/Penn. I picked Penn but acknowledged it could be close and go either way. This is an easy fight to pick here though especially after seeing their last several fights.
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PostSubject: Re: JDS will beat Cain   JDS will beat Cain - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 1:59 pm

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If Roy Nelson can stand there not even moving and lump up JDS... Cain will drop him.
I'll use that same logic and say if Kongo can hurt Cain badly and almost finish him, JDS will knock him smooth out.
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PostSubject: Re: JDS will beat Cain   JDS will beat Cain - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 1:59 pm

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If Roy Nelson can stand there not even moving and lump up JDS... Cain will drop him.
I'll use that same logic and say if Kongo can hurt Cain badly and almost finish him, JDS will knock him smooth out.

Kongo >>>> Nelson on the feet and hits >>>>> harder. And he moves, actually boxes.


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Catch him, JDS can catch him, that's how I can see him winning, a catch. Cain winning is more stable than a catch. His fight to lose. -150 is robbery, get it while you can.
I think I heard these kind of claims before about a fight that happened not too long ago. That is just an insane statement to make.

Not by me if you are talking about Diaz/Penn. I picked Penn but acknowledged it could be close and go either way. This is an easy fight to pick here though especially after seeing their last several fights.
Yeah I know it wasn't you that said it. But the statements are similar just the same.
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PostSubject: Re: JDS will beat Cain   JDS will beat Cain - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 07, 2011 2:00 pm

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If Roy Nelson can stand there not even moving and lump up JDS... Cain will drop him.
I'll use that same logic and say if Kongo can hurt Cain badly and almost finish him, JDS will knock him smooth out.

Kongo >>>> Nelson on the feet and hits >>>>> harder.
Yeah but JDS hits harder then Cain. So wouldn't that also imply that JDS' punches will put Cain to sleep?
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Exqueeze me?

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/10/22/1767525/sport-science-cain-velasquezs-punching-power-2230-lbs-of-force
I missed the episode where they also tested JDS.
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They didn't even bother to air it.
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If someone where to tell me Cain would just take JDS down at will and dominate the fight I could digest that alot easier then someone trying to tell me Cain actually stands a chance on the feet vs JDS. Because that just isn't true.
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They didn't even bother to air it.
We shall see. Less then a week away before we see who is right and who is saying I told you so.
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He's gonna trade punches and kicks with until it opens the easy take down, after about 40 seconds JDS will be in the fetal position with Rosenthal waving Cain off of him.
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JDS by TKO 2:40 into round 3. By that time Cain would have been hurt multiple times and he just won't be able to recover from the damage taken throughout the fight.
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