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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:18 pm
throwdownfight1 wrote:
leben is a good wrestler himself. simpson is a great wrestler and akiyama a great judoka,leben finished them both. in the end most dont want to brawl with leben but at times get caught in the moment. im not sold on leben being a top guy by any means but cung is below leben.
only because of the layoff if that is the case, but Cung is ten times the martial artists/fighter that Leben is. If Cung took it serious he would mop the octagon with Leben.[/quote]
ok, you can say that excuse or u can be realistic and say that akiyama is just not that good as most thouht having lost his 3 fights in the ufc. once again leben is no elite fighter but he is a real fighter/mixed martial artists but cung on the other hand is a San Shou fighter trying to be an mixed martial artist/actor at the same time.[/quote]
Yo I only said half of that so I don't know where you're going with the qoutes? I have always wanted to see Cung and spider fight is all. I know it won't happen unless Cung gets 3-4 wins at MW.
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:04 am
UFC or Bust, Cung Le wants a UFC fight or he'll stick with acting.
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:09 am
Dana likes him. I think he should fight Alan Belcher if he is cleared, or someone along those lines.
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:18 am
Cung Le vs Wanderlei Silva.
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:14 pm
Wolfgangsta wrote:
Smith is far from God awful. Anyway, Le is rusty and older, but in a sport predicated on match ups and skill sets, Le even two years ago was one of the hardest fights for Anderson Silva in the entire sport. Now, a dumbass might look at the wikipedia page of Cung Le and have a meltdown, but there are no dumbasses on this forum? Are there?
Le's standing skill set is significantly better than anyone Anderson has beaten in the UFC by far. Franklin and a two year off lay off Belfort are the only real strikers Anderson has even really faced you know. There are names like Leben and Cote but please show me there highlight reels from San Shou and please show me where they've used some of the highest level possible striking in MMA like Le has. Opposition or not, the tools Le uses in MMA can't be denied. This is a constantly over looked facet of Anderson Silva.
The biggest issue with amateur MMA fans is overlooking skills and match ups and looking at the names on a record. You have to analyze everything.
Well said Wolf
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:19 pm
Cung vs any Striker at MW in the UFC. Wand would be cool with me.
Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:07 pm
dana has always liked Cung so this probably happens
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:11 pm
I hope so. I just hope Cung fights an exciting fighter and not a Fitch type wrestler.
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:25 pm
bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
I hope so. I just hope Cung fights an exciting fighter and not a Fitch type wrestler.
i wouldnt mind who he fights as long as its a top calibur opponent. then again if he does fight someone like fitch he would most likely lose
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:33 pm
bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
I hope so. I just hope Cung fights an exciting fighter and not a Fitch type wrestler.
agree, at this stage of the game, Im not that interested in trying to find out if Cung is a complete martial artist, I just want to see him in exciting fights(this is pretty much my overall philosophy but there is extra credence in this regard).
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:43 pm
really hope they can get him on the San Jose card.
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:49 pm
Wolfgangsta wrote:
Smith is far from God awful. Anyway, Le is rusty and older, but in a sport predicated on match ups and skill sets, Le even two years ago was one of the hardest fights for Anderson Silva in the entire sport. Now, a dumbass might look at the wikipedia page of Cung Le and have a meltdown, but there are no dumbasses on this forum? Are there?
Le's standing skill set is significantly better than anyone Anderson has beaten in the UFC by far. Franklin and a two year off lay off Belfort are the only real strikers Anderson has even really faced you know. There are names like Leben and Cote but please show me there highlight reels from San Shou and please show me where they've used some of the highest level possible striking in MMA like Le has. Opposition or not, the tools Le uses in MMA can't be denied. This is a constantly over looked facet of Anderson Silva.
The biggest issue with amateur MMA fans is overlooking skills and match ups and looking at the names on a record. You have to analyze everything.
Anderson Silva now and two years ago would have crushed Cung Le. The dude got fucking knocked out by Scott Smith
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:59 pm
bobbitt15 wrote:
Wolfgangsta wrote:
Smith is far from God awful. Anyway, Le is rusty and older, but in a sport predicated on match ups and skill sets, Le even two years ago was one of the hardest fights for Anderson Silva in the entire sport. Now, a dumbass might look at the wikipedia page of Cung Le and have a meltdown, but there are no dumbasses on this forum? Are there?
Le's standing skill set is significantly better than anyone Anderson has beaten in the UFC by far. Franklin and a two year off lay off Belfort are the only real strikers Anderson has even really faced you know. There are names like Leben and Cote but please show me there highlight reels from San Shou and please show me where they've used some of the highest level possible striking in MMA like Le has. Opposition or not, the tools Le uses in MMA can't be denied. This is a constantly over looked facet of Anderson Silva.
The biggest issue with amateur MMA fans is overlooking skills and match ups and looking at the names on a record. You have to analyze everything.
Anderson Silva now and two years ago would have crushed Cung Le. The dude got fucking knocked out by Scott Smith
And spider was once tapped by Ryo Chonan. shit happens
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:05 pm
captain organic wrote:
bobbitt15 wrote:
Wolfgangsta wrote:
Smith is far from God awful. Anyway, Le is rusty and older, but in a sport predicated on match ups and skill sets, Le even two years ago was one of the hardest fights for Anderson Silva in the entire sport. Now, a dumbass might look at the wikipedia page of Cung Le and have a meltdown, but there are no dumbasses on this forum? Are there?
Le's standing skill set is significantly better than anyone Anderson has beaten in the UFC by far. Franklin and a two year off lay off Belfort are the only real strikers Anderson has even really faced you know. There are names like Leben and Cote but please show me there highlight reels from San Shou and please show me where they've used some of the highest level possible striking in MMA like Le has. Opposition or not, the tools Le uses in MMA can't be denied. This is a constantly over looked facet of Anderson Silva.
The biggest issue with amateur MMA fans is overlooking skills and match ups and looking at the names on a record. You have to analyze everything.
Anderson Silva now and two years ago would have crushed Cung Le. The dude got fucking knocked out by Scott Smith
And spider was once tapped by Ryo Chonan. shit happens
difference was anderson wasnt in his prime just yet. le was.
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:32 pm
Le was coming bck from being out for some time. What happened when he trained harder for the next fight. Heck the 1st fight Smith got embarrassed the whole fight and caught a tired Cung at the end of the fight.
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:37 am
So yeah that dude in the cage tonight knocked out Cung Le
And yes...at this stage of his career he is a fucking terrible fighter
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:09 am
bobbitt15 wrote:
So yeah that dude in the cage tonight knocked out Cung Le
And yes...at this stage of his career he is a fucking terrible fighter
Dude Valentijn Overeem beat Randy Couture. U can't pin your argument on one fight.
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:42 pm
Valentijn could beat a lot of people in fights where he isn't allowed to get hit
But regardless, that Cung loss has to be looked at as a totally terrible loss.
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:42 pm
No one is arguing that the loss to Smith was a good thing.
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Subject: Re: Cung Le wants to fight Chris Leben at UFC 138 Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:56 am