Business as usual in the UFC:

GDPofDRC wrote:

Pretty sure we have threads for all of these fights already. What's the point?

LA trolling SF and taking veiled shots. You know the routine.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

OU wrote:

Primetyme199 wrote:

The only thing with the tourney, which is great for us as fans, it destroys all the future title shots. Unless Overeem loses and you give him a rematch. Your basically giving all your best HW's a loss so how do you promote the next title shot?

Shane Del Rosario. His time is coming soon. You have 3 "reserve" fights, so 3 prospects coming off wins. You put those guys vs the other guys that did well in the tourny and BAM, title worthy challenger.

Three reserve fights?

http://mmajunkie.com/news/22063/three-reserve-bouts-complete-feb-12-strikeforce-fedor-vs-silva-main-card.mma
As MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) previously reported, Shane Del Rosario (10-0 MMA, 2-0 SF) vs. Lavar Johnson (15-3 MMA, 3-0 SF) and Ray Sefo (2-0 MMA, 1-0 SF) vs. Valentijn Overeem (28-25 MMA, 0-0 SF) are set.

Officials also announced a third reserve bout between Chad Griggs (9-1 MMA, 1-0 SF) and Gian Villante (7-1 MMA, 0-0 SF).

Never heard of the Griggs fight. Damn.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Never heard of the Griggs fight. Damn.

Just added today, I think.

Primetyme199 wrote:

The only thing with the tourney, which is great for us as fans, it destroys all the future title shots. Unless Overeem loses and you give him a rematch. Your basically giving all your best HW's a loss so how do you promote the next title shot?

SF doesn't care how many times you have been beaten when it comes to title shots.

Ridiculous.

god LA your hate for strikeforce and UFC fandom is sad at times

Are there LA posts deleted or something

No offense Bird, I didn't see anything that LA has said that makes you think he is anti-SF. Plus I don't think anybody on this board sees anything but positive on this SF tourney. I may question the bracket set-up, which I think sucks, but it doesn't mean the tourney is a bad idea.

The brackets make the most sense. All the fights they needed to do anyway and then a legit contender created out of the other side.

Where's the hate, just pointing out the obvious....

LA wrote:

Where's the hate, just pointing out the obvious....

Your opinion lol

LA wrote:

Where's the hate, just pointing out the obvious....

We be a little slow in Oklahoma(as you know). What was so obvious? That UFC has a couple decent HW matchups that was probably made because of the recent SF tourney? That tourney is so much better then those matchups it isn't even funny.

It makes sense? Off the top of my head 2 of the fighters in the bracket are on multi-fight losing streaks and one of those twos last victory was against the other! Quit pumping shit up to make the chunky Russian look better, it makes you look stupid.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

It makes sense? Off the top of my head 2 of the fighters in the bracket are on multi-fight losing streaks and one of those twos last victory was against the other! Quit pumping shit up to make the chunky Russian look better, it makes you look stupid.

I don't think you are following Wolf. Werdum vs Reem is a fight that is going to really unify the title. Fedor was the real Champ and Reem was the paper champ. So now the real champ Werdum will unify the SF title. So let's pretend this isn't a tourney for a second. Werdum vs Reem would be the next logical Championship fight. Winner of Fedor vs Bigfoot would be the logical next opponet for the winner. Now the other side of the bracket will simply give us a 3rd person worthy of a title shot. Let's just assume for a min that Barnett beats Rogers and then AA, he is now in position to challenge for the title.

MMAEYES wrote:

LA wrote:

Where's the hate, just pointing out the obvious....

Your opinion lol

It isn't business as usual for the UFC? they don't put together great matchups the majority of the time and setup fights which naturally lead to Title shots?

LA wrote:

MMAEYES wrote:

LA wrote:

Where's the hate, just pointing out the obvious....

Your opinion lol

It isn't business as usual for the UFC? they don't put together great matchups the majority of the time and setup fights which naturally lead to Title shots?

OK now I get your point. My bad bro.

Even if you want to lookat it from the context of 4 fights vs 4 fights it could be debated.

And that unifying title shit is complete nonsense.

LA wrote:

Even if you want to lookat it from the context of 4 fights vs 4 fights it could be debated.

And that unifying title shit is complete nonsense.

If Fedor would have fought Reem right away would that not have unified the title? As it was Fedor was the real HW Champ of SF. Werdum is now the real Champion IMO, but Reem holds the belt. So the winner of that fight will be the true SF HW Champion, that title will finally mean something.

Talking to the wrong guy with that line of thought, I don't buy those arguments.

That makes sense OU. It really does and it makes the SF people look really smart, from that aspect. But at that point it is not really a tourney. A real tourney means #1 fights #8, #2 vs #7. However, I agree regardless of the shitty bracket set-up, it is a great promotional tool, I can't argue with that. I do not recognize the WAMMA Championship belt however and no reasonable person does, so I do not recognize Fedor as SF Champion, I do agree that Overeem is something of a paper champion, but I think he would be awesome if he dedicated himself to MMA fulltime and what makes him a paper champ is completely Scott Coker's fault.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

That makes sense OU. It really does and it makes the SF people look really smart, from that aspect. But at that point it is not really a tourney. A real tourney means #1 fights #8, #2 vs #7. However, I agree regardless of the shitty bracket set-up, it is a great promotional tool, I can't argue with that. I do not recognize the WAMMA Championship belt however and no reasonable person does, so I do not recognize Fedor as SF Champion, I do agree that Overeem is something of a paper champion, but I think he would be awesome if he dedicated himself to MMA fulltime and what makes him a paper champ is completely Scott Coker's fault.

I agree it's not really a tourney setup. I think calling it a "tourney" is just a way of jazzing it up a little bit. Making it sound flashier then it really is.
Even if you don't recognize Fedor as Champion of any kind, would you acknowledge he was the highest ranked SF HW at the time of his loss to Werdum? He was considered to be the best HW on SF's roster at the time of his loss.

OU wrote:

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

That makes sense OU. It really does and it makes the SF people look really smart, from that aspect. But at that point it is not really a tourney. A real tourney means #1 fights #8, #2 vs #7. However, I agree regardless of the shitty bracket set-up, it is a great promotional tool, I can't argue with that. I do not recognize the WAMMA Championship belt however and no reasonable person does, so I do not recognize Fedor as SF Champion, I do agree that Overeem is something of a paper champion, but I think he would be awesome if he dedicated himself to MMA fulltime and what makes him a paper champ is completely Scott Coker's fault.

I agree it's not really a tourney setup. I think calling it a "tourney" is just a way of jazzing it up a little bit. Making it sound flashier then it really is.
Even if you don't recognize Fedor as Champion of any kind, would you acknowledge he was the highest ranked SF HW at the time of his loss to Werdum? He was considered to be the best HW on SF's roster at the time of his loss.

I fucking love this post

Lol +1. That's exactly what I said the other day and was being labeled as a hater for pointing out something so obvious

Seedings don't make a tournament, structure does. Four fights are happening, the structure has already dictated the next progression and so on to the finals, that is a tournament. Did Pride never have a tournament GP? What were those official seedings? To have a seeding here there would have to be some form of officially recognized fighter rankings, there is not, the closest thing to that is the Ninja's Place Divisional and Pound 4 Pound Rankings, and even that is proving to be to daunting a task for many to partake in. The path of the bracket pairings caters to the logical line of title fights that should be happening. The promotional title is not on hiatus for however long the GP goes on. It is active and in turn is merged with the Lineal Title, regardless of ones faith in it.