Which of these conspiracies are fake and which are true?

really? You have a poll that say that or something? Or are you just making that up??

Freaky predictions or just coincidence?

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

Osama Bin Laden was a CIA agent and his family has done business with the Bush's for decades. No conspiracy there at all

you live in Australia so.......... and lol at bin laden being a CIA agent. The only source of that is fidel castro.

Thomasdrrn09 wrote:

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

Osama Bin Laden was a CIA agent and his family has done business with the Bush's for decades. No conspiracy there at all

you live in Australia so.......... and lol at bin laden being a CIA agent. The only source of that is fidel castro.

Yeah because you know everything.

im done trying with this one... let the sheep follow his masters.

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

Freaky predictions or just coincidence?

I hope you are kidding and that is not seriously your argument and evidence.

Tim Osama - CIA Asset

oggy420 wrote:

im done trying with this one... let the sheep follow his masters.

You have literally yet to make a single point. Read your posts. You have not made a single post. Maybe when you put down the bong and grow up you will realize that there are better sources than 19 year old pot heads on the internet who manipulate information and constantly take quotes out of contact. It is because of people like you that bush was able to get away with so much while he was in office. If you Lonny toons would have actually spoken out against the war crimes they have committed you would have made a difference.

ouch...




^ Those are tears of pity btw

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

Freaky predictions or just coincidence?

lol Freak, you seriously watched those and had a "moment of clarity" didn't you???

oggy420 wrote:

ouch...




^ Those are tears of pity btw

as I said no proof just the typical truther bs of "you just listen to what the government tells you"

dude you are completely off your rocker

im the on calling for accountability of our leaders, and you say I am to blame for him getting away with war crimes? Dude you are delusional. The social engineering has you all fucked up in the head.

Thomasdrrn09 wrote:

oggy420 wrote:

ouch...




^ Those are tears of pity btw

as I said no proof just the typical truther bs of "you just listen to what the government tells you"

What form of proof do you bring to the table in support of your beliefs on the matter?

oggy420 wrote:

dude you are completely off your rocker

im the on calling for accountability of our leaders, and you say I am to blame for him getting away with war crimes? Dude you are delusional. The social engineering has you all fucked up in the head.

I'm delusional yet you believe everything you read on the internet. If someone told you the government caused hurricane Katrina you would believe lol.

They weren't my proof. Thomas is probably a Freemason so we should watch what we say.

name a topic specifically you want some evidence on. I will give it.

oggy420 wrote:

something tells me no matter how much evidence i give you on any of my theories your just gonna reject it. If you can't handle the truth that is fine, just admit as much.

That's the problem I have with both sides of the 9/11 debate. Truthers, from Alex Jones on down just talk over people and rarely have actual FACTS. They may have what they consider to be facts but if they are refuted they wont acknowledge the other side. Then there are people that wont listen to the truthers and it's the same thing.

I know what you are talking about with building 7 Oggy and there is some questionable shit there. My problem with it is that it is one small piece of what happened that day and if it was an "inside job" or not done by Muslim extremists then why was it so elaborate? Why not do something that involved 20 people instead of 2,000? In this day and age where everyone wants to be the one to break a story, how could not one person invloved have ever talked?

Operation Northwoods - look into it. Ask your self what our government would of had to gain from it then, internally. Think about what relevance it bears to the world scene today in regards to the war on terror.

flase flag attacks aren't a new thing. And they aren't talking because they know what lies ahead.

I mean look at the shape of the global economy? Do you not see what is happening? A collapse is imminent. It's coming and the government is preparing for it. They are building underground bases all over the place, and unfortunately they are building these fema camps too. Pretty soon the TSA goons are gonna be sticking their hands down your pants and strip searching your children as bus stops, train stations, all mass transit. Laws are being passed taking away our civil liberties and consoldiating wealth and power at an unprecedented level.

It's happening, the Police State is coming, Martial Law is coming.

Got to go to bed. Continue this tomorrow. Oh and sorry if I insulted a fellow Jets fan no hard feelings.

oggy420 wrote:

flase flag attacks aren't a new thing. And they aren't talking because they know what lies ahead.

I mean look at the shape of the global economy? Do you not see what is happening? A collapse is imminent. It's coming and the government is preparing for it. They are building underground bases all over the place, and unfortunately they are building these fema camps too. Pretty soon the TSA goons are gonna be sticking their hands down your pants and strip searching your children as bus stops, train stations, all mass transit. Laws are being passed taking away our civil liberties and consoldiating wealth and power at an unprecedented level.

It's happening, the Police State is coming, Martial Law is coming.

That is a point that can't be argued against.

Z, Please read this article.

PDD 51 & New Executive Order Give Obama Dictator Power

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, January 18, 2010

An Obama executive order that creates a council of state governors who will work with the feds to expand military involvement in domestic security, together with PDD 51, a Bush era executive order that gives the President dictatorial power in times of national emergency, eliminate the last roadblocks to declaring martial law in the United States.
The new order, which is entitled Establishment of the Council of Governors (PDF), creates a body of ten state governors directly appointed by Obama who will work with the federal government to help advance the “synchronization and integration of State and Federal military activities in the United States”.
The governors will liaise with officials from Northcom, Homeland Security, the National Guard as well as DoD officials from the Pentagon “in order to strengthen further the partnership between the Federal Government and State governments,” according to the executive order.
The exective order combines seamlessly with Presidential Decision Directive 51 to hand Obama dictator status in times of declared, and not necessarily genuine, national emergency.
In May 2007, former President George W. Bush sparked much alarm by openly declaring himself to be a dictator in the event of a national emergency under provisions that effectively nullify the U.S. constitution, but such an infrastructure has been in place for over 70 years and this merely represented a re-authorization of martial law powers.
Legislation signed on May 9, 2007, declares that in the event of a “catastrophic event”, the President can take total control over the government and the country, bypassing all other levels of government at the state, federal, local, territorial and tribal levels, and thus ensuring total unprecedented dictatorial power.
The National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive, which also places the Secretary of Homeland Security in charge of domestic “security”, was signed earlier without the approval or oversight of Congress and seemingly supercedes the National Emergency Act which allows the president to declare a national emergency but also requires that Congress have the authority to “modify, rescind, or render dormant” such emergency authority if it believes the president has acted inappropriately.
Journalist Jerome Corsi, who studied the directive, also states that it makes no reference to Congress and “its language appears to negate any requirement that the president submit to Congress a determination that a national emergency exists.”
In July 2007, Congressman Peter DeFazio (D – OR) was asked by his constituents to see what was contained within the classified portion of the White House’s plan for operating the government after a terrorist attack.
Since DeFazio also sits on the Homeland Security Committee and has clearance to view classified material, the request would have appeared to be routine, but the Congressman was unceremoniously denied all access to view the documents, and the White House wouldn’t even give an excuse as to why he was barred.
“I just can’t believe they’re going to deny a member of Congress the right of reviewing how they plan to conduct the government of the United States after a significant terrorist attack,” DeFazio told the Oregonian.

“We’re talking about the continuity of the government of the United States of America,” DeFazio says. “I would think that would be relevant to any member of Congress, let alone a member of the Homeland Security Committee.”
“Maybe the people who think there’s a conspiracy out there are right,” DeFazio concluded.
These new powers have now been handed over to President Obama, allowing him, along with a body of councillors personally selected by him, to declare martial law without there necessarily being a genuine national emergency, greasing the skids for U.S. troops and National Guard to conduct domestic policing of the American people.
In October 2008, Northcom, a Unified Combatant Command of the United States military based out of Peterson AFB, Colorado Springs, was assigned the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team returning from Iraq. An alarming September 8 Army Times report which was later denied after it sparked controversy stated that the troops would be used by Northcom to deal with “civil unrest and crowd control” in the aftermath of a national emergency.
The Obama executive order states that governors will help advise the feds on National Guard, homeland defense, and civil support activities.
The fact that the order further blurs the lines between state and federal power, as well as greasing the skids for more military involvement in domestic affairs has stoked fears that Obama may be laying the groundwork for his promised “national civilian security force”.
Conservatives and libertarians responded to the announcement by expressing their suspicion that Obama is preparing to give governors their marching orders in targeting “anti-government” types that have long been characterized as a terrorist threat by the feds in numerous reports stretching back over a decade.
“There is a definite purpose to this,” wrote one commenter on the popular Free Republic website, “The initial steps toward a domestic “Civilian Security Force” in each state, as called for by the fascisti during the campaign. It will be coordinated at the state level, under the authority of DHS and DoD and assorted agencies. The provision will be made for it to be “federalized” in an emergency, as is the National Guard.”
“This is a concrete step toward eliminating the independent authority and dissolving the sovereignty of the several States. It lays the groundwork for the end of the United States as a Republic,” she adds.
Others warn that Obama could be preparing to cancel elections under the justification of a national emergency, a fear that was often expressed when Bush was in office but one that never materialized.
However, the executive order clearly represents another assault on Posse Comitatus, the 1878 law that bars the military from exercising domestic police powers, which was temporarily annulled by the 2006 John Warner National Defense Authorization Act before parts of it were later repealed

Waco?

Well there is certainly no good news in there. I get prison planet and infowars shit all the time from my brother in law and most times I dont read it cause I dont really wanna see that shit. I got three kids that will have to deal with this shit if it's all real, besides that, what can anyone do about it? Honestly? It is good to know though I guess.