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PostSubject: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 12:37 am

I'll make a short appearance before getting hammered

Brock is not shitty now, he isn't really exposed, he lost to one of the other best HWs in the World, who a lot whether they they picked against him tonight felt was going to become a HW Champ in the future. Cain was good, early on Brock was doing fine, IMO he made a mistake by giving Cain room when he got him down, he could have held Cain down but went to pass pretty sloppy giving Cain room to scramble. Just like the Carwin fight Brock doesn't want to get into the exchanges and it hurt him, he covers up which makes him an easier target. Lets not act like he sucks now, how many guys are gonna stop the takedown to stand with Brock?. Cain was already a great wrestler and Carwin a good wrestler with equal strength and similar size.


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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 12:40 am

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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 12:42 am

wtf is up with this?
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 12:43 am

You just asked from more trouble then you can handle

Completely rational post
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 12:46 am

Guys that would give Brock trouble or beat him, Cain, Carwin, Overeem and Barnett
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 12:47 am

And not the greatest fighter in history? GTFO
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 12:50 am

Nope, no way he stops that first takedown, Brock gets him down easily and holds him down with size and strength alone, be rational, Fedor isn't as good a wrestler as Cain and is much smaller and simply not as strong.
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 12:52 am

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Nope, no way he stops that first takedown, Brock gets him down easily and holds him down with size and strength alone, be rational, Fedor isn't as good a wrestler as Cain and is much smaller and simply not as strong.
He couldn't fucking hold couture down hows he gonna hold fedor down And avoid a sub?
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 12:53 am

Size and strength alone? Do you watch MMA? Be fucking serious. Fedor scrambles immediately and catches a limb during the scramble or just knocks his block off back on the feet.



Because he weighs 40 pounds more he doesn't need any technique?


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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 12:54 am

He's only ever held Mir and Herring down but he is gonna chest to belly Werdum and Fedor, some of the best off their back HW's ever in the sport. Ya ok.
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 12:56 am

Fedor is even smaller then Randy and not a Olympic alternate wreslter, that was Brock's 3rd fight too.

BRETT ROGERS GOT FEDOR DOWN AND GAVE HIM TROUBLE WITH SIZE, BRETT ROGERS
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 1:03 am

before tonight ppl were saying that cain couldnt stop a lesnar takedown, tonight proved otherwise. his shot is not that great ppl, get over it
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 1:04 am

Dude he had Cain down, Brock got sloppy on the pass.

Cain is a phenominal wrestler too, no relation here.
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 1:05 am

LA wrote:
Dude he had Cain down, Brock got sloppy on the pass.

Cain is a phenominal wrestler too, no relation here.
he took him down once, got stuffed twice and got taken down twice himself... HMMM Sleep
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 1:06 am

Fedor is also a phenomenal MMA wrestler.
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 1:09 am

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Dude he had Cain down, Brock got sloppy on the pass.

Cain is a phenominal wrestler too, no relation here.
he took him down once, got stuffed twice and got taken down twice himself... HMMM Sleep

That has nothing to do with where this started about Fedor, read your posts.

He took Cain down twice and stuffed twice, Brock got sloppy when he had good position and went for the pass which allowed Cain to scramle. Brock was taken down by Cain once, he ended up on all fours.
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 1:10 am

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Fedor is also a phenomenal MMA wrestler.

Yes, but not as good as Cain, and was taken down by Rogers who has no wrestling.
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 1:12 am

I don't doubt he'd get a few takedowns but I doubt he'd be able to what he did to Mir against Fedor. You must have missed the 5 year reign in Pride or something if you think the two fighters are comparable at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 1:14 am

Mir was never even brought up in any of my posts

Brock would just be too large on top for Fedor, if Rogers got him down and gave him trouble there, Brock sure as hell could.
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 1:16 am

Rogers hardly held him down at all. He threw some huge punches but he didn't hurt Fedor at all. You're crazy if you think 40 pounds negates technique. This is MMA dude.
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 1:17 am

But did Rogers get him down? Does he have any wrestling/BJJ technique at all?

No

This is MMA dude.
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 1:27 am

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But did Rogers get him down? Does he have any wrestling/BJJ technique at all?

No

This is MMA dude.

He has four years of MMA training. Lesnar could get him down I am sure but he isn't going to keep him there. Fedor'd sub him or he'd pop up and KO him. Fedor could block some takedowns too.

Does a takedown mean he'll win?
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 1:32 am

If Fedor didn't come into the fight with a cut on his nose and wasn't bleeding all over the place would anyone even say he was in trouble against Rogers???
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 2:08 am

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I'll make a short appearance before getting hammered

Brock is not shitty now, he isn't really exposed, he lost to one of the other best HWs in the World, who a lot whether they they picked against him tonight felt was going to become a HW Champ in the future. Cain was good, early on Brock was doing fine, IMO he made a mistake by giving Cain room when he got him down, he could have held Cain down but went to pass pretty sloppy giving Cain room to scramble. Just like the Carwin fight Brock doesn't want to get into the exchanges and it hurt him, he covers up which makes him an easier target. Lets not act like he sucks now, how many guys are gonna stop the takedown to stand with Brock?. Cain was already a great wrestler and Carwin a good wrestler with equal strength and similar size.


I agree with Brock giving Cain the space to get back up. I don't think it will matter though. Cain took a few shots from Brock and won in every way. Cain outwrestled the NCAA champion plain and simple. Brock got a few TD's that looked good, but Cain picked his moment and got out every time. He sized Lesnar up and outstruck him after that and got the TKO. After seeing that I can't ever say Brcok would beat Cain.
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PostSubject: Re: Brock Lesnar   Brock Lesnar EmptySun Oct 24, 2010 2:49 am

He cannot keep a good wrestler down. Cain holds the new record for least time spent on the ground aft er a Brock takedown.

Brock is gonna get set up with some kind of Shaub or Mitrione I got a felling, Superbowl style, NFL themed. Some one they think he can Brock smash.
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