Brock vs Cain and how it effects the HW Rankings

How will the Brock/Cain fight effect your ratings?

My current rankings-

01. Brock Lesnar
02. Fedor Emelianenko
03. Fabricio Werdum
04. Shane Carwin
05. Junior dos Santos
06. Cain Velasquez
07. Frank Mir
08. Allistar Overeem
09. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
10. Josh Barnett

If Brock Wins-

01. Brock Lesnar
02. Fedor Emelianenko
03. Fabricio Werdum
04. Shane Carwin
05. Junior dos Santos
06. Cain Velasquez
07. Frank Mir
08. Allistar Overeem
09. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
10. Josh Barnett

If Cain Wins-

01. Cain Velasquez
02. Fedor Emelianenko
03. Brock Lesnar
04. Fabricio Werdum
05. Shane Carwin
06. Junior dos Santos
07. Frank Mir
08. Allistar Overeem
09. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
10. Josh Barnett

Depending on how badly Lesnar loses, he will drop anywhere from 5 to 7 on my rankings. It's not good when the UFC HW champion would probably lose to the KOTC HW champion.

Lol, Wolf your hatred for Brock Lesnar is becoming comical.

There is nothing separating Cormier and Lesnar. Both green young wrestlers. Cormier has looked better defensively though, has a better ground game, and much better wrestling.

Yeah because smashing cans and low level fighters shows us so much more than being baptized in fire at the top.

Tony Johnson if he had a UFC deal would already be a fight or two at most from a title shot. Herring, Mir and Couture aint no murderers row dude. Forget it. Once Cain dominates him, my fun begins.

I didn't say it was a Murderers row, but it for damn sure is alot more challenging than Jason Riley, Lucas Brown, John Devine and Gary Frazier.

Wolfy hates Brock too much to give a reasonable opinion on him.

I have zero hate for Lesnar. I hate how he is overrated beyond all reason.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

I have zero hate for Lesnar. I hate how he is overrated beyond all reason.

He is the undisputed UFC HW champion Wolf. How is that overrated?

Seems like hate

Being the "UFC undispited HW champion" doesn't shield his skill from criticism or level up his game like some talisman of power.

Lesnar's stats 999 across all categories, he's the champ remember?

Wolfy isn't hating on Brock he's on the mark with how much people overrate him.

To be fair you hate on Brock too

People don't overated him, they say he is the best HW in the World and think he could beat certain other top HWs.

LA wrote:

To be fair you hate on Brock too

People don't overated him, they say he is the best HW in the World and think he could beat certain other top HWs.

lol now I hate Brock for agreeing with Wolf. Like I've said many times I just don't find his fighting style appealing, it's got nothing to do with hate because Brock the character is fascinating.

Not sure where you got the agreeing with Wolfy part, you hate on him cause you hate on him, all you have to do is read what you've wrote about him for a while.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

I have zero hate for Lesnar. I hate how he is overrated beyond all reason.

He is the undisputed UFC HW champion Wolf. How is that overrated?

I think the fact that at 5-1, he is almost the unanimously ranked #1 hwy in the world, is a pretty strong premise #1 to an argument that concludes with: Brock is overrated.

Beaten good fighters, 3 top 10 HWs at the time, and the obvious when you watch him the "Who can beat who" arguments.

LA wrote:

Beaten good fighters, 3 top 10 HWs at the time, and the obvious when you watch him the "Who can beat who" arguments.

Im not looking at the Mir and Couture wins as elite level wins, good wins, but those guys(much like Arlovski and Sylvia whome Fedor seems to get little credit for beating) have not looked like top 10 heavies at all since their loss. I do think beating Carwin is a great win on the resume, but he showed major chinks in the armor there. A big strong dude who doesn't gas looks to be a major obstacle. I'm confident in picking Carwin in the rematch.

Eh, I hate Mir but those were good wins at the time, I think they're better wins then AA and Timmy. Remember Brock is still learning a lot too, still very new to the game but look at him already.

LA wrote:

Eh, I hate Mir but those were good wins at the time, I think they're better wins then AA and Timmy. Remember Brock is still learning a lot too, still very new to the game but look at him already.

Agree very impressive wins considering where he is at in his career, but that relative impressiveness should not get him to the top of the rankings.

I actually think Brock is a bad dude, possibly the #1, but has he really earned the spot? I dunno. In time we could be saying: yeah he was def overrated.

No one Brock has beaten is relevant in MMA anymore besides Frank Mir only marginally. Lesnar was losing to Chintoure and Cardiowin before their achilles heels, and not technique or even size, caught up with them. How many fighters in the UFC would have beaten Carwin in that second round? Or for that matter, how many HW's could Couture have withstood a punch from at that point?

Does Lesnar have heart? Ya. Is he a top ten HW? Absolutely? Best HW in the world? ....eh.

LA wrote:

Not sure where you got the agreeing with Wolfy part, you hate on him cause you hate on him, all you have to do is read what you've wrote about him for a while.

Sure I hate Brock, your word is final

Wolfgangsta wrote:

No one Brock has beaten is relevant in MMA anymore besides Frank Mir only marginally. Lesnar was losing to Chintoure and Cardiowin before their achilles heel's, and not technique or even size, caught up with them. How many fighters in the UFC would have beaten Carwin in that second round?

Does Lesnar have heart? Ya. Is he a top ten HW? Absolutely? Best HW in the world? ....eh.

+1

Just have to do a little reading