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LA wrote:

captain organic wrote:

LA wrote:

Yes, "big" wrestlers, 5-11 250 isn't 6-3 280, skill level is Cormier based off recentness, but Brock is right there IMO.

and where is he supposed to find this 6-3 280 quality wrestler at?

as far as skill, that's cormier all the way. Brock was getting tossed by Carwin.

When did he toss him? he rocked him with punches, while rocked Brock shot for a takedown which was stuffed, he got rocked some more, dropped to his knees sort of and ended up on his back, no where did Carwin come close to tossing him. Brock is right there with Cormier, he only gets the edge due to recentness in terms of wrestling activity.

cormier has edge in skill dept. Brock as always has edge in size strength. Overall wrestling ability those 2 things may cancel each other out, but if we are talking straight skill, gotta go Cormier.

A couple more weeks till Brock ends the Cain hype train like he did Carwin.

I agree Tim. Cain is way overated. His best win is against a washed up over Big Nog who even Mir destroyed. Cain hasn't been tested yet. They should've got him to fight Mir 1st.

Cain is not overrated, when you watch a fighter can't you tell when it's obvious they are good? Him losing to Brock would not prove him overrated or not, both guys are top 5 for years to come.

captain organic wrote:

LA wrote:

captain organic wrote:

LA wrote:

Yes, "big" wrestlers, 5-11 250 isn't 6-3 280, skill level is Cormier based off recentness, but Brock is right there IMO.

and where is he supposed to find this 6-3 280 quality wrestler at?

as far as skill, that's cormier all the way. Brock was getting tossed by Carwin.

When did he toss him? he rocked him with punches, while rocked Brock shot for a takedown which was stuffed, he got rocked some more, dropped to his knees sort of and ended up on his back, no where did Carwin come close to tossing him. Brock is right there with Cormier, he only gets the edge due to recentness in terms of wrestling activity.

cormier has edge in skill dept. Brock as always has edge in size strength. Overall wrestling ability those 2 things may cancel each other out, but if we are talking straight skill, gotta go Cormier.

I can agree with this, still think Brock would hang right in there.

LA wrote:

Cain is not overrated, when you watch a fighter can't you tell when it's obvious they are good? Him losing to Brock would not prove him overrated or not, both guys are top 5 for years to come.

I have no doubt that Cain will be champ 1 day but a lot of people have Brock as the underdog and are saying Cain is the much better wrestler and has the speed advantage which is just wrong.

He does have the speed advantage, wrestling IMO goes to Brock but Cain is right there, he was an excellent college wrestler and has wrestled more recently then Brock. Still picking Brock though.

Cain might have quicker punches but Brock has faster movement and is more agile.

What Brock is, is incredibly fast and agile for a man his size, but he's still not as fast and agile as Cain, is it close? Yes, but Cain has the advantage there.

No. Brock is easily the quickest and most agile heavyweight in any MMA company.

Yikes, people talk about how quick and agile he is for his size, but he is not as quick and agile as Cain.

Joe Rogan says he's as fast as the middleweights.

Rogan says a lot of things, he also said Daley was the best technical striker in MMA at one point

LA wrote:

Rogan says a lot of things

So do you

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

No. Brock is easily the quickest and most agile heavyweight in any MMA company.

LOL.


Just.


LOL.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

No. Brock is easily the quickest and most agile heavyweight in any MMA company.

LOL.


Just.


LOL.

Wow, Wolf disagrees with something good written about Brock. No way.

LA wrote:

Who said on here Cain didn't speak Spanish? Know someone did

Not seeing any big wrestlers brought in through one ep

Liking the beard

Brock subs off his back would be money

errr I must eat crow on that, I read it somewhere like bloody elbow though in my defense.

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

No. Brock is easily the quickest and most agile heavyweight in any MMA company.

You can't possibly believe that?

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

LA wrote:

Rogan says a lot of things

So do you

I know what I'm talking about, watch the Primetime you can see how they both move, Brock's gift is his unique quickness and agility for a man his size, he has talents other places obviously but those are his main attributes.

Cain - Speed, Quickness, Agility, Striking, (I'm not saying cardio cause Brock is a freak there too)

Brock - Size, Strength, Wrestling, (I'm still giving him the edge), Punching Power, Submissions (Cain has looked bad here in great situations), Ability to take damage

Cu Bua wrote:

LA wrote:

Who said on here Cain didn't speak Spanish? Know someone did

Not seeing any big wrestlers brought in through one ep

Liking the beard

Brock subs off his back would be money

errr I must eat crow on that, I read it somewhere like bloody elbow though in my defense.

Ditto.

Cu Bua wrote:

LA wrote:

Who said on here Cain didn't speak Spanish? Know someone did

Not seeing any big wrestlers brought in through one ep

Liking the beard

Brock subs off his back would be money

errr I must eat crow on that, I read it somewhere like bloody elbow though in my defense.

He doesn't speak Spanish. He speaks Mexican. There is a difference.

LudoCain wrote:

Cu Bua wrote:

LA wrote:

Who said on here Cain didn't speak Spanish? Know someone did

Not seeing any big wrestlers brought in through one ep

Liking the beard

Brock subs off his back would be money

errr I must eat crow on that, I read it somewhere like bloody elbow though in my defense.

He doesn't speak Spanish. He speaks Mexican. There is a difference.

Eso si ques bueno!

LA wrote:

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

LA wrote:

Rogan says a lot of things

So do you

I know what I'm talking about

Lol ok, if you say so.

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

LA wrote:

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

LA wrote:

Rogan says a lot of things

So do you

I know what I'm talking about

Lol ok, if you say so.

Ok bro

"Brock is faster and more agile then Cain", um no he's not, "Well Rogan says......"

This was the full post

I know what I'm talking about, watch the Primetime you can see how they both move, Brock's gift is his unique quickness and agility for a man his size, he has talents other places obviously but those are his main attributes.

Cain - Speed, Quickness, Agility, Striking, (I'm not saying cardio cause Brock is a freak there too)

Brock - Size, Strength, Wrestling, (I'm still giving him the edge), Punching Power, Submissions (Cain has looked bad here in great situations), Ability to take damage

LA wrote:

Rogan says a lot of things, he also said Daley was the best technical striker in MMA at one point

ROFL