Subject: Rank the Rocky Fighters Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:05 am
Just for a bit of fun. How do you rank them in order of who beats who?
1. Rocky Balboa 2. Ivan Drago 3. Apollo Creed 4. Clubber Lang 5. Mason Dixon 6. Tommy Gunn
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Subject: Re: Rank the Rocky Fighters Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:16 am
Creed Balboa Lang Gunn Drago (1 and 1 as a pro) Dixon (I hate Tarver).
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Subject: Re: Rank the Rocky Fighters Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:19 am
Drago has got to be top 3. Only Rocky could beat him.
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Subject: Re: Rank the Rocky Fighters Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:20 am
My take:
1. Rocky (no question there) 2. Drago (killed Apollo, too big for the rest of them) 3. Apollo (too slick for Clubber - he had the game plan that worked for Rocky) 4. Clubber (he was a baaad man) 5. Morrsion er, I mean Gunn 6. Dixon (lazy light heavy - Tarver sucks)
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Subject: Re: Rank the Rocky Fighters Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:33 am
freakzilla316ftw wrote:
Drago has got to be top 3. Only Rocky could beat him.
Totally unproven. Only fought two pro fights one of which was against a retired Creed the other against a post retirement Balboa which he lost. Balboa was inactive for almost four years at the time of their fight. Drago was a Russian hype job.
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Subject: Re: Rank the Rocky Fighters Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:34 am
hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
Creed Balboa Lang Gunn Drago (1 and 1 as a pro) Dixon (I hate Tarver).
Gunn beats Drago? No way.
And technically Drago never had a pro fight, both were exhibitions and Rocky gave up his belt to fight Drago in Russia.
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Subject: Re: Rank the Rocky Fighters Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:36 am
Tobe06 wrote:
hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
Creed Balboa Lang Gunn Drago (1 and 1 as a pro) Dixon (I hate Tarver).
Gunn beats Drago? No way.
And technically Drago never had a pro fight, both were exhibitions and Rocky gave up his belt to fight Drago in Russia.
That more than makes my point as to why I have him rated so low. How can we rank him high if he never had any pro fights and only fought retired former champions. Rocky would have been stripped of the title at the time of their fight.
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Subject: Re: Rank the Rocky Fighters Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:38 am
Drago's boxing stats:
Ivan Drago Statistics Nickname(s) The Russian Express The Russian Bull, Death from Above Rated at Heavyweight Nationality Template:Country data Russian German Birth place Siberia, Russian SSR, Soviet Union Stance Orthodox Boxing record Total fights
Amateur – 100
Professional – 2
Wins
Amateur – 100
Professional – 1
Losses
Amateur – 0
Professional – 1 Draws
Amateur – 0
Professional – 0
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Subject: Re: Rank the Rocky Fighters Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:38 am
We saw enough from Drago in those 2 fights to be able to make an educated guess that he'd be able to beat Tommy Gunn.
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Subject: Re: Rank the Rocky Fighters Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:40 am
freakzilla316ftw wrote:
We saw enough from Drago in those 2 fights to be able to make an educated guess that he'd be able to beat Tommy Gunn.
How can you say that? Hypothetical wins mean shit. The guy beat one RETIRED fighter and lost to another!!!
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Subject: Re: Rank the Rocky Fighters Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:40 am
hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
Tobe06 wrote:
hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
Creed Balboa Lang Gunn Drago (1 and 1 as a pro) Dixon (I hate Tarver).
Gunn beats Drago? No way.
And technically Drago never had a pro fight, both were exhibitions and Rocky gave up his belt to fight Drago in Russia.
That more than makes my point as to why I have him rated so low. How can we rank him high if he never had any pro fights and only fought retired former champions. Rocky would have been stripped of the title at the time of their fight.
You've gotta have Drago ranked up there! Didn't you see all that high-tech training equipment!? (Marble is gonna freak when he reads this)
He was a steriod-enhanced 7-foot monster! He KILLED Apollo in the ring, and you have Apollo ranked #1!?
BTW - love that this is an actual thread
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Subject: Re: Rank the Rocky Fighters Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:43 am
Lol. Until I was 10 this was real for me damn it. I remember being 8 and watching Rocky 3. Every time Clubber threw a punch I'd duck and weave like he was hitting me.
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Subject: Re: Rank the Rocky Fighters Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:45 am
Tobe06 wrote:
hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
Tobe06 wrote:
hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
Creed Balboa Lang Gunn Drago (1 and 1 as a pro) Dixon (I hate Tarver).
Gunn beats Drago? No way.
And technically Drago never had a pro fight, both were exhibitions and Rocky gave up his belt to fight Drago in Russia.
That more than makes my point as to why I have him rated so low. How can we rank him high if he never had any pro fights and only fought retired former champions. Rocky would have been stripped of the title at the time of their fight.
You've gotta have Drago ranked up there! Didn't you see all that high-tech training equipment!? (Marble is gonna freak when he reads this)
He was a steriod-enhanced 7-foot monster! He KILLED Apollo in the ring, and you have Apollo ranked #1!?
BTW - love that this is an actual thread
He killed a 42 year old Apollo. 42 and retired for nine years!!!!! We don't have Marciano ranked higher than Louis and he KO'd the Brown Bomber. Rocky, a man retired for almost four years, beat the Russian in Drago's back yard. Drago = Russian Hype job. Apollo's ego is what killed him.
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Subject: Re: Rank the Rocky Fighters Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:48 am
Apollo in his prime dominates
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Creed Balboa Lang Gunn Drago (1 and 1 as a pro) Dixon (I hate Tarver).
Gunn beats Drago? No way.
And technically Drago never had a pro fight, both were exhibitions and Rocky gave up his belt to fight Drago in Russia.
That more than makes my point as to why I have him rated so low. How can we rank him high if he never had any pro fights and only fought retired former champions. Rocky would have been stripped of the title at the time of their fight.
You've gotta have Drago ranked up there! Didn't you see all that high-tech training equipment!? (Marble is gonna freak when he reads this)
He was a steriod-enhanced 7-foot monster! He KILLED Apollo in the ring, and you have Apollo ranked #1!?
BTW - love that this is an actual thread
He killed a 42 year old Apollo. 42 and retired for nine years!!!!! We don't have Marciano ranked higher than Louis and he KO'd the Brown Bomber. Rocky, a man retired for almost four years, beat the Russian in Drago's back yard. Drago = Russian Hype job. Apollo's ego is what killed him.
Ok, a prime Creed beats Drago maybe (like a prime Ali beats Wald/Vitali), but my original point was that there's no way Drago loses to Gunn! He's gotta be at least #4. Lang is a killer, so I could go either way on him or Drago at #3.
Gunn = George Washington Duke hype-job
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Creed Balboa Lang Gunn Drago (1 and 1 as a pro) Dixon (I hate Tarver).
Gunn beats Drago? No way.
And technically Drago never had a pro fight, both were exhibitions and Rocky gave up his belt to fight Drago in Russia.
That more than makes my point as to why I have him rated so low. How can we rank him high if he never had any pro fights and only fought retired former champions. Rocky would have been stripped of the title at the time of their fight.
You've gotta have Drago ranked up there! Didn't you see all that high-tech training equipment!? (Marble is gonna freak when he reads this)
He was a steriod-enhanced 7-foot monster! He KILLED Apollo in the ring, and you have Apollo ranked #1!?
BTW - love that this is an actual thread
He killed a 42 year old Apollo. 42 and retired for nine years!!!!! We don't have Marciano ranked higher than Louis and he KO'd the Brown Bomber. Rocky, a man retired for almost four years, beat the Russian in Drago's back yard. Drago = Russian Hype job. Apollo's ego is what killed him.
Ok, a prime Creed beats Drago maybe (like a prime Ali beats Wald/Vitali), but my original point was that there's no way Drago loses to Gunn! He's gotta be at least #4. Lang is a killer, so I could go either way on him or Drago at #3.
Gunn = George Washington Duke hype-job
Gunn was made a contender by Rocky. He won the belt under Duke.
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So how would we compare these guy to real fighters Rocky Balboa- Marciano maybe? or even George Chuvalo.... Ivan Drago- Wlad/Vitali for sure Apollo Creed- Ali no doubt about this Clubber Lang- Tyson, Liston maybe Mason Dixon- not a HW but Jermain Taylor IMO Tommy Gunn- Morrison himself
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and Also how can Rocky be #1 when he has like 33 losses... Spider Rico gave him a fight.
It's based on who beats who out of those 6 and he has wins over them all except Mason who he fought when he was way too old. Also, Clubber doesn't have the cardio to last 12 rounds with Drago.
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So how would we compare these guy to real fighters Rocky Balboa- Marciano maybe? or even George Chuvalo.... Ivan Drago- Wlad/Vitali for sure Apollo Creed- Ali no doubt about this Clubber Lang- Tyson, Liston maybe Mason Dixon- not a HW but Jermain Taylor IMO Tommy Gunn- Morrison himself
Balboa is compared in reality to Chuck Wepner
Creed is Ali, which is where the story actually came from
Lang is Liston, Holmes and Foreman mixed.
Gunn is actually supposed to be Tyson. Abused by father from downtrodden background. Ditches Balboa (Rooney and the rest of the Catskill fam) for the Don Kingesque Duke.
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