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| Subject: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:26 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:46 pm | |
| Lou really sounds depressed and frustrated with the state of boxing right now, I wouldn't be shocked if he walked away from the sport soon. |
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SlickMoneyXL Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Miguel Cotto, Efrain Escudero Posts : 1105 Join date : 2010-05-13 Age : 37 Location : Newburgh, NY
| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:50 pm | |
| Lou needs to talk to his boy Andre Berto. He's part of the problem. | |
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Canvas Purple Belt
Posts : 1508 Join date : 2010-05-15
| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:50 pm | |
| I'm of the same mind as Lou at the moment as a fan.... | |
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SlickMoneyXL Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Miguel Cotto, Efrain Escudero Posts : 1105 Join date : 2010-05-13 Age : 37 Location : Newburgh, NY
| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:50 pm | |
| Being inactive and picking on 140 pounders isnt helping boxing. | |
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:54 pm | |
| - SlickMoneyXL wrote:
- Lou needs to talk to his boy Andre Berto. He's part of the problem.
I am sure Lou has tried too. |
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Canvas Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:02 pm | |
| Yes, I think a big part of Lou's frustration is dealing with stupid, ignorant, egotistical fighters with badly inflated senses of self worth and entitlement.... | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:03 pm | |
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RUM CAPITAL Blue Belt
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:17 pm | |
| i watch broadway boxing every friday and they have a section where they speak to him and he comes up with ideas on how to save the sport and he always brings up having better undercards. i like lou but in reality the super six has helped start all these little tournaments which will give us great fights. | |
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captainanddew Brown Belt
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:20 pm | |
| The biggest problem I have with promoters saying negative things about boxing, is most of them are a big part of the problem. | |
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SlickMoneyXL Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:24 pm | |
| - RUM CAPITAL wrote:
- i watch broadway boxing every friday and they have a section where they speak to him and he comes up with ideas on how to save the sport and he always brings up having better undercards. i like lou but in reality the super six has helped start all these little tournaments which will give us great fights.
He calls for better undercards but has yet to do it. He has 3 fighters that are "HBO caliber". He should be stacking cards with Berto, Martinez, and Caballero. | |
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RUM CAPITAL Blue Belt
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:27 pm | |
| well caballero's more than willing to fight anybody and so is martinez. is not their fault juanma,gamboa,angulo and williams have all bitched out. as for berto...well he's a complete different story. | |
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SlickMoneyXL Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:29 pm | |
| - RUM CAPITAL wrote:
- well caballero's more than willing to fight anybody and so is martinez. is not their fault juanma,gamboa,angulo and williams have all bitched out. as for berto...well he's a complete different story.
I'm sure there's Top 10 fighters at 126 or 130 that'll fight Caballero on HBO. Same goes for Martinez at 154-160. | |
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RUM CAPITAL Blue Belt
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:30 pm | |
| - SlickMoneyXL wrote:
- RUM CAPITAL wrote:
- well caballero's more than willing to fight anybody and so is martinez. is not their fault juanma,gamboa,angulo and williams have all bitched out. as for berto...well he's a complete different story.
I'm sure there's Top 10 fighters at 126 or 130 that'll fight Caballero on HBO. Same goes for Martinez at 154-160. no doubt, but will hbo want those fights??? i mean if im martinez and i just defeated pavlik i want another big fight. if its a tube up im having i'll have it home in argentina. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:31 pm | |
| If only Ray Robinson were here. | |
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SlickMoneyXL Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:33 pm | |
| - RUM CAPITAL wrote:
- SlickMoneyXL wrote:
- RUM CAPITAL wrote:
- well caballero's more than willing to fight anybody and so is martinez. is not their fault juanma,gamboa,angulo and williams have all bitched out. as for berto...well he's a complete different story.
I'm sure there's Top 10 fighters at 126 or 130 that'll fight Caballero on HBO. Same goes for Martinez at 154-160. no doubt, but will hbo want those fights??? i mean if im martinez and i just defeated pavlik i want another big fight. if its a tube up im having i'll have it home in argentina. I'm sure HBO would make a reasonable offer. Would the fighters take it?, is the question. | |
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:33 pm | |
| - SlickMoneyXL wrote:
- RUM CAPITAL wrote:
- i watch broadway boxing every friday and they have a section where they speak to him and he comes up with ideas on how to save the sport and he always brings up having better undercards. i like lou but in reality the super six has helped start all these little tournaments which will give us great fights.
He calls for better undercards but has yet to do it. He has 3 fighters that are "HBO caliber". He should be stacking cards with Berto, Martinez, and Caballero. It's not that simple though, putting all three on the same card costs a fortune. Neither HBO or Showtime have the budget to pay for a card like that unless it's put on pay per view. |
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RUM CAPITAL Blue Belt
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:33 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- If only Ray Robinson were here.
wtf is up with that picture you have??? why are they biting of the mosley-mayweather idea? | |
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Diego408 Green Belt
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:35 pm | |
| Its the promoters who are at fault. We can blame all the ABC organizations but theyve been around for a while and they never affected much. Promoters arent promoting which is boxing biggest problems. I dont give a fuck what all of you guys say about Arum, but that man is a genius. I always find myself being the lone Arum fan, hes helped the sport so much. He made DLH, Flomo, Pacquiao, Cotto and Margarito. Those are guys who can draw as of now. 4 of those 5 guys mentioned have craked a million PPV buys in a fight. All these promoters like Shaw, Goossen, DiBella are guys who just collect HBO money from their fighters.They aint breaking a sweat trying to sell a ticket because they are already profiting. The only time it cost promoters is for PPV. | |
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:36 pm | |
| - SlickMoneyXL wrote:
- RUM CAPITAL wrote:
- SlickMoneyXL wrote:
- RUM CAPITAL wrote:
- well caballero's more than willing to fight anybody and so is martinez. is not their fault juanma,gamboa,angulo and williams have all bitched out. as for berto...well he's a complete different story.
I'm sure there's Top 10 fighters at 126 or 130 that'll fight Caballero on HBO. Same goes for Martinez at 154-160. no doubt, but will hbo want those fights??? i mean if im martinez and i just defeated pavlik i want another big fight. if its a tube up im having i'll have it home in argentina. I'm sure HBO would make a reasonable offer. Would the fighters take it?, is the question. slick who at 154 can martinez fight?? williams and angulo BOTH turned him down. so who's there??? kirkland was THE MAN or at least looked that way but then he went to jail. there's other prospects there but martinez IS the man. the only one i could think of is serg dzurkin (spelling) but is hbo willing to pay to have that fight since sergei is not that well known. maybe joel julio but if im martinez i want another big fight...heck he just came from getting robbed against martinez and beating pavlik he deserves it. | |
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:37 pm | |
| Don King and Bob Arum are old men, how will boxing in America cope without those two high profile promoters once they retire ? |
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SlickMoneyXL Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:37 pm | |
| - Ali_1748 wrote:
- SlickMoneyXL wrote:
- RUM CAPITAL wrote:
- i watch broadway boxing every friday and they have a section where they speak to him and he comes up with ideas on how to save the sport and he always brings up having better undercards. i like lou but in reality the super six has helped start all these little tournaments which will give us great fights.
He calls for better undercards but has yet to do it. He has 3 fighters that are "HBO caliber". He should be stacking cards with Berto, Martinez, and Caballero. It's not that simple though, putting all three on the same card costs a fortune. Neither HBO or Showtime have the budget to pay for a card like that unless it's put on pay per view. HBO overpaying fighters is the problem. Pay the fighters their REAL worth. Berto 400k. Caballero 200K. Martinez around 700k. | |
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Diego408 Green Belt
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:37 pm | |
| - RUM CAPITAL wrote:
- Wolfgangsta wrote:
- If only Ray Robinson were here.
wtf is up with that picture you have??? why are they biting of the mosley-mayweather idea? Hes mocking the creativeness of GBP lol | |
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RUM CAPITAL Blue Belt
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| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:38 pm | |
| - Diego408 wrote:
- Its the promoters who are at fault. We can blame all the ABC organizations but theyve been around for a while and they never affected much. Promoters arent promoting which is boxing biggest problems. I dont give a fuck what all of you guys say about Arum, but that man is a genius. I always find myself being the lone Arum fan, hes helped the sport so much. He made DLH, Flomo, Pacquiao, Cotto and Margarito. Those are guys who can draw as of now. 4 of those 5 guys mentioned have craked a million PPV buys in a fight. All these promoters like Shaw, Goossen, DiBella are guys who just collect HBO money from their fighters.They aint breaking a sweat trying to sell a ticket because they are already profiting. The only time it cost promoters is for PPV.
yeah but arums undercard have absolutely stunk. i mean that pac-clottey undercard was the worst thing i've ever een. nevermind when he has chavez jr lololol | |
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captainanddew Brown Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ricky Burns Posts : 2946 Join date : 2010-05-22 Age : 47 Location : Richmond, Virginia
| Subject: Re: Lou DiBella "Boxing is in decline" Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:38 pm | |
| Who gives a shit about HBO??? How about as a promoter helping your guy build a fanbase before this point????? | |
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