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PostSubject: Has the lack of Pro success for Heisman Trophy winners hurt the award?   Has the lack of Pro success for Heisman Trophy winners hurt the award? EmptyTue Sep 07, 2010 1:26 pm

Or does it have no barring because the trophy is an indication of Collegiate Football success?

In wake of Reggie Bush being stripped of his Heisman, I thought about how he hasn't lived up to the hype as a pro, not that I expected he would. And if you look at it, there hasn't been a really good Heisman to Pro player transition since maybe Charles Woodson, honorable mention to Carson and Ricky they had their years/moments here and there. But for the most part these days, Heisman winners turnout to be complete busts, and I'm sure they'll be more, though Ingram should be pretty good when he comes out (If he stays healthy). In the 80's though, there was a ridiculous amount of good to great Heisman winners in the Pros, and before so the award had a solid history of producing future good Pro's. IMO, even though the award is based on what they did in CFB, the fact that soo many turnout to be complete busts had hurt the award a bit, just my opinion though.
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PostSubject: Re: Has the lack of Pro success for Heisman Trophy winners hurt the award?   Has the lack of Pro success for Heisman Trophy winners hurt the award? EmptyTue Sep 07, 2010 1:31 pm

The Heisman has nothing to do with the pros and Bush has lived up and exceeded the realistic expectations anyone with a brain had. Bush is a great player and breaks the Heisman trend. Stripping him was retarded.


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PostSubject: Re: Has the lack of Pro success for Heisman Trophy winners hurt the award?   Has the lack of Pro success for Heisman Trophy winners hurt the award? EmptyTue Sep 07, 2010 1:37 pm

And stripping a guy of his trophy because of mistakes he made as a kid 5 years after the fact is gay. The NCAA will not stop short of amputating Bush's arm.
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PostSubject: Re: Has the lack of Pro success for Heisman Trophy winners hurt the award?   Has the lack of Pro success for Heisman Trophy winners hurt the award? EmptyTue Sep 07, 2010 1:47 pm

the Heisman has nothing to do with THE BEST COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYER or Most Valuable Player

now it is simply a popularity contest between the pretty boy faces of the season

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Yeah, look at all the recent losers that have won the award.

Troy Smith, Reggie Bush, Matt Leinart, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Has the lack of Pro success for Heisman Trophy winners hurt the award?   Has the lack of Pro success for Heisman Trophy winners hurt the award? EmptyTue Sep 07, 2010 2:02 pm

eric crouch

yuck

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Wolfgangsta wrote:
The Heisman has nothing to do with the pros and Bush has lived up and exceeded the realistic expectations anyone with a brain had. Bush is a great player and breaks the Heisman trend. Stripping him was retarded.


If you're going to post here why not come back to the MMA forum? Stop being a vagina you vagina.
Bush shouldnt have broke the rules. People need to realize there are consequences for your actions.
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PostSubject: Re: Has the lack of Pro success for Heisman Trophy winners hurt the award?   Has the lack of Pro success for Heisman Trophy winners hurt the award? EmptyTue Sep 07, 2010 2:35 pm

never really cared about the heisman. I think there were a lot of times that they picked the wrong guy.
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If they retroactively award VY the award somethings getting blown up.
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If they retroactively award VY the award somethings getting blown up.
Now that would be a joke. Who is to say that VY would have won if Reggie was not in the race? I think he would have but we do not know for sure.
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Prior to 1989, the Heisman almost assured you a successful career in the NFL. College success translated to NFL success much differently. But the NFL game has changes so much that it's easy for a skill position college guy to have great success there, but fail miserably in the NFL. Hell, I think Heisman hype is almost a jinx for RB's, QB's and WR's today.

As to the question... It's still an honor, but I think the media has hurt the award as much as anything. Like Bird said... You're a top-10 hopeful before the season's first snap just by being a media darling. The wrong guy gets the award as often as the right guy.
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PostSubject: Re: Has the lack of Pro success for Heisman Trophy winners hurt the award?   Has the lack of Pro success for Heisman Trophy winners hurt the award? EmptyTue Sep 07, 2010 3:03 pm

uh well the fact Vince came in close2nd should be a pretty big sign

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PostSubject: Re: Has the lack of Pro success for Heisman Trophy winners hurt the award?   Has the lack of Pro success for Heisman Trophy winners hurt the award? EmptyTue Sep 07, 2010 3:11 pm

Tim Brown just had the best take on this

The heisman winner has to be AN ELIGIBLE PLAYER Reggie has been ruled ineligible, so it should be taken away

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Birdofthad wrote:
Tim Brown just had the best take on this

The heisman winner has to be AN ELIGIBLE PLAYER Reggie has been ruled ineligible, so it should be taken away
Tim Brown is the MAN. I love that guy.
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Timmy may very well be the last Heisman winner to get into the HOF.
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LikesToFightGuy wrote:
Timmy may very well be the last Heisman winner to get into the HOF.

Think your right. Woodson is the only guy with a case left to be made in a few years, but that will be tough.

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look at jason white LMAO WOW!

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look at jason white LMAO WOW!
I think Sam will be great. Also Jason would still be in the NFL if he had not had two blown knees.
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josh200612 wrote:
look at jason white LMAO WOW!
I think Sam will be great. Also Jason would still be in the NFL if he had not had two blown knees.
i was just teasin lol i knew you would bite.

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The answer oughtta be no. The pros have nothing to do with an award given to the "oustanding college football player."

The problem with the award is it is almost impossible for 70% of the positions to win it. Linemen and linebackers ought to regularly win this ward.
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The answer oughtta be no. The pros have nothing to do with an award given to the "oustanding college football player."

The problem with the award is it is almost impossible for 70% of the positions to win it. Linemen and linebackers ought to regularly win this ward.
That is my biggest problem with it as well. Ndamukong Suh should have won last year.
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