Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:23 pm
posted in wrong thread i think
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Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:34 pm
Jackson and Evans are tied up... Rua's tied up... Jardine and Thiago are tied up... I say give him Bones or Cane... Either way, it ends in the first, IMO.
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Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:44 pm
Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:25 pm
It has to be someone like Shogun, Rampage, Rashad, Jardine, etc, a big name, but I would like to see Coleman or Couture. I want someone that is going grab him and push him agaist the cage or take him down. I don't want to see him trade because he obviously has the length and great defensive boxing. I truly feel if a big name boxer came into the sport he would go on a Anderson like run with his movement alone.
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Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:32 pm
Farmer1906 wrote:
It has to be someone like Shogun, Rampage, Rashad, Jardine, etc, a big name, but I would like to see Coleman or Couture. I want someone that is going grab him and push him agaist the cage or take him down. I don't want to see him trade because he obviously has the length and great defensive boxing. I truly feel if a big name boxer came into the sport he would go on a Anderson like run with his movement alone.
On just boxing alone I extremely doubt that. Anderson has some unbelievable BJJ to go along with his striking.
Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:41 pm
How often do we see Anderson's BJJ? You line up Forrest, Franklin, Rampage, Rashad, Jardine, and whoever else wants to stand a trade all day long and they don't land shit vs top boxers.
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Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:54 pm
Farmer1906 wrote:
How often do we see Anderson's BJJ? You line up Forrest, Franklin, Rampage, Rashad, Jardine, and whoever else wants to stand a trade all day long and they don't land shit vs top boxers.
Lutter, Leites, Hendo fights.
Ya, that's why they would just take them down and either easily GNP or submit them. Of course they are not going to stand with them. Anderson has some world class BJJ to atleast defend from the bottom. No pure boxer would make a run like Anderson.
Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:02 pm
You're missing the point Ninja.
You keep feeding Anderson or a boxing a bunch of guys that will stand and trade and they're going to make them look silly.
Give them someone who can get the fight down or against the cage and we have something entirely different.
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Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:18 pm
I know he's taken but Rampage is the obvious choice. It's funny but it's already as if there are no legit challenges for spider at 205 aside from Lyoto.
But I'll go Tito(after he beats somebody).
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Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:33 pm
I dont think Dana lets him go to 205 just yet.
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Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:18 pm
Farmer1906 wrote:
You're missing the point Ninja.
You keep feeding Anderson or a boxing a bunch of guys that will stand and trade and they're going to make them look silly.
Give them someone who can get the fight down or against the cage and we have something entirely different.
He's not missing the point. He just refused to acknowledge how absurd it really is. Machida and Crocop would shoot on a pro boxer immediately.
Also, Silva has other elements of his striking game that make him so utterly dangerous to MMA fighters. His kicking defense(used against both Irvin and Griffin) his locktrap clinch(Franklin fights) and his kicking ability. Boxers would have none of that.
James Irvin and Forrest both TKO David Haye on the ground in the first round. Bet it.
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Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:27 pm
Wolfgangsta wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
You're missing the point Ninja.
You keep feeding Anderson or a boxing a bunch of guys that will stand and trade and they're going to make them look silly.
Give them someone who can get the fight down or against the cage and we have something entirely different.
He's not missing the point. He just refused to acknowledge how absurd it really is. Machida and Crocop would shoot on a pro boxer immediately.
Also, Silva has other elements of his striking game that make him so utterly dangerous to MMA fighters. His kicking defense(used against both Irvin and Griffin) his locktrap clinch(Franklin fights) and his kicking ability. Boxers would have none of that.
James Irvin and Forrest both TKO David Haye on the ground in the first round. Bet it.
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Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:54 pm
Wolfgangsta wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
You're missing the point Ninja.
You keep feeding Anderson or a boxing a bunch of guys that will stand and trade and they're going to make them look silly.
Give them someone who can get the fight down or against the cage and we have something entirely different.
He's not missing the point. He just refused to acknowledge how absurd it really is. Machida and Crocop would shoot on a pro boxer immediately.
Also, Silva has other elements of his striking game that make him so utterly dangerous to MMA fighters. His kicking defense(used against both Irvin and Griffin) his locktrap clinch(Franklin fights) and his kicking ability. Boxers would have none of that.
James Irvin and Forrest both TKO David Haye on the ground in the first round. Bet it.
Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:56 am
Yea i say give him bones jones. I dlike to see that cocky guy get owned.
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Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:03 am
Wolfgangsta wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
You're missing the point Ninja.
You keep feeding Anderson or a boxing a bunch of guys that will stand and trade and they're going to make them look silly.
Give them someone who can get the fight down or against the cage and we have something entirely different.
He's not missing the point. He just refused to acknowledge how absurd it really is. Machida and Crocop would shoot on a pro boxer immediately.
Also, Silva has other elements of his striking game that make him so utterly dangerous to MMA fighters. His kicking defense(used against both Irvin and Griffin) his locktrap clinch(Franklin fights) and his kicking ability. Boxers would have none of that.
James Irvin and Forrest both TKO David Haye on the ground in the first round. Bet it.
I can't see Cro-Cop going for a shot, but I bet he would throw a few kneebreaking leg kicks.
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Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:26 am
I wanna see him rematch Griffin.
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Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:27 am
Wolfgangsta wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
You're missing the point Ninja.
You keep feeding Anderson or a boxing a bunch of guys that will stand and trade and they're going to make them look silly.
Give them someone who can get the fight down or against the cage and we have something entirely different.
He's not missing the point. He just refused to acknowledge how absurd it really is. Machida and Crocop would shoot on a pro boxer immediately.
Also, Silva has other elements of his striking game that make him so utterly dangerous to MMA fighters. His kicking defense(used against both Irvin and Griffin) his locktrap clinch(Franklin fights) and his kicking ability. Boxers would have none of that.
James Irvin and Forrest both TKO David Haye on the ground in the first round. Bet it.
Agree. It's a mistake to throw a low kick at Silva. He will catch it and you will pay. I knew that would hurt Griffin and sure enough it did.
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Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:31 am
Could someone like Randy hold him down and beat on him?
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Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:46 pm
OUSOONERSOU wrote:
Could someone like Randy hold him down and beat on him?
I think Randy (or someone like him) could for a round or two, but over 5 rounds Anderson would eventually finish Randy (or somone like him)
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Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:13 pm
muayjitsu wrote:
Yea i say give him bones jones. I dlike to see that cocky guy get owned.
Subject: Re: If Anderson makes permanent move to LHW, who should his next opponent be? Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:29 pm
Wolfgangsta wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
You're missing the point Ninja.
You keep feeding Anderson or a boxing a bunch of guys that will stand and trade and they're going to make them look silly.
Give them someone who can get the fight down or against the cage and we have something entirely different.
He's not missing the point. He just refused to acknowledge how absurd it really is. Machida and Crocop would shoot on a pro boxer immediately.
Also, Silva has other elements of his striking game that make him so utterly dangerous to MMA fighters. His kicking defense(used against both Irvin and Griffin) his locktrap clinch(Franklin fights) and his kicking ability. Boxers would have none of that.
James Irvin and Forrest both TKO David Haye on the ground in the first round. Bet it.
You're not getting it either. Anderson's defensive boxing and overall striking is better than anyone else's in MMA. If the very same guys who are trying to stand with Anderson stood vs a top boxer the ending would be similar.
To beat Anderson you need a Couture, Hendo, etc.... someone who can take a punch take Anderson out of where he is truly dominant. Now I'm not saying saying Anderson has bad BJJ or clinch work, obviously not. It is just that Anderson is so much better at stand up. You don't see people trying to sub Aoki or outwrestle GSP so why are people trying to KO Anderson on the feet?
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