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PostSubject: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyMon Jul 26, 2010 7:11 pm

Title of the thread asks it all

Best of series.

We already did Light Heavyweight all-time best ( https://ninjasplace.forumotion.net/mma-f1/top-10-light-heayweights-of-all-time-t4574.htm?highlight=all+time ), now what about the big boys? Rank'em however you want.

What I'm thinking.

Fedor
Big Nog
Cro Cop
Randy
Barnett
Bas
Severn
Coleman
Frye
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyMon Jul 26, 2010 7:31 pm

Fedor
Randy
Big Nog
Cro Cop
Shammy
Rutten
Maurice Smith
Coleman
Frye
Severn
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyMon Jul 26, 2010 10:06 pm

Mine is based on who they beat and/or who can beat them. Couldn't put Barnett in there because he's got caught with steroids his whole career.

01. Fedor Emelianenko
02. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
03. Randy Couture
04. Mirko CroCop
05. Bas Rutten
06. Brock Lesnar
07. Dan Severn
08. Mark Coleman
09. Don Frye
10. Shane Carwin
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyMon Jul 26, 2010 10:18 pm

quick question guys how does Rutten get rated higher than Ken when he went 0-2 against him?
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 12:08 am

Fedor
Randy
Nog
Coleman
Severn
Cro Cop
Lesnar
Bas
Frye
Carwin
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 12:09 am

Birdofthad wrote:
quick question guys how does Rutten get rated higher than Ken when he went 0-2 against him?

I consider Ken as a light-heavyweight.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 1:13 am

even though he beat Severn and Bas and damn near Frye
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 1:36 am

Birdofthad wrote:
quick question guys how does Rutten get rated higher than Ken when he went 0-2 against him?

You know the answer to that question as well as anyone here bird. You wouldn't even be asking if it wasn't Ken in question. Would you not rank Matt Hughes above Dennis Hallman in an all time WW list despite Hughes being 0-2 against Hallman?
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 4:00 am

Birdofthad wrote:
even though he beat Severn and Bas and damn near Frye

He beat them at openweight didn't he? He was never the heavyweight champion and Bas was.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 4:19 am

freakzilla316ftw wrote:
Birdofthad wrote:
even though he beat Severn and Bas and damn near Frye

He beat them at openweight didn't he? He was never the heavyweight champion and Bas was.


he was superfight champ which ended up being the lineal title to the heavyweight championship
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 4:24 am

Birdofthad wrote:
freakzilla316ftw wrote:
Birdofthad wrote:
even though he beat Severn and Bas and damn near Frye

He beat them at openweight didn't he? He was never the heavyweight champion and Bas was.


he was superfight champ which ended up being the lineal title to the heavyweight championship

There were no weight divisions then though. When they started weight divisions he fought at light-heavyweight. It's like saying Royce Gracie was 1 of the best ever heavyweights also.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 9:07 am

freakzilla316ftw wrote:
Mine is based on who they beat and/or who can beat them. Couldn't put Barnett in there because he's got caught with steroids his whole career.

01. Fedor Emelianenko
02. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
03. Randy Couture
04. Mirko CroCop
05. Bas Rutten
06. Brock Lesnar
07. Dan Severn
08. Mark Coleman
09. Don Frye
10. Shane Carwin
based on who they beat? who has shane carwin beat thats notable? Mir and Gabe? I couldn't put Carwin on this list.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 9:36 am

killerofchicken wrote:
freakzilla316ftw wrote:
Mine is based on who they beat and/or who can beat them. Couldn't put Barnett in there because he's got caught with steroids his whole career.

01. Fedor Emelianenko
02. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
03. Randy Couture
04. Mirko CroCop
05. Bas Rutten
06. Brock Lesnar
07. Dan Severn
08. Mark Coleman
09. Don Frye
10. Shane Carwin
based on who they beat? who has shane carwin beat thats notable? Mir and Gabe? I couldn't put Carwin on this list.

And/or who can beat them. How many heavyweights in history can beat Carwin? not many.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 10:58 am

Josh Barnett would beat him in unspectacular fashion.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 11:08 am

Kimbo
HMC
Bob Sapp
Ross Clifton
Wes Simms

top 5 are in a class of their own, no others are worth listing.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 11:13 am

If Shamrock hadn't been on steroids Ross would be higher on the list.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 11:13 am

OUSOONERSOU wrote:
Kimbo
HMC
Bob Sapp
Ross Clifton
Wes Simms

top 5 are in a class of their own, no others are worth listing.

lol, you mean the class of "scrubs & freakshows"?
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 11:14 am

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Josh Barnett would beat him in unspectacular fashion.

He's been caught with Steroids too many times to be included.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 11:21 am

killerofchicken wrote:
OUSOONERSOU wrote:
Kimbo
HMC
Bob Sapp
Ross Clifton
Wes Simms

top 5 are in a class of their own, no others are worth listing.

lol, you mean the class of "scrubs & freakshows"?

how dare you disrespect the GOATs
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freakzilla316ftw wrote:
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Josh Barnett would beat him in unspectacular fashion.

He's been caught with Steroids too many times to be included.

How does that change the fact that he would beat Carwin? And wtf, Carwin is an all time top ten Heavyweight? Even bad jokes are supposed to be a little funny in a bad way. He just got tapped by a dude who didn't do roids just got caught with a giant duffel full of them. Hate on Barnett all you want, he is a better fighter than most.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 11:30 am

OUSOONERSOU wrote:
killerofchicken wrote:
OUSOONERSOU wrote:
Kimbo
HMC
Bob Sapp
Ross Clifton
Wes Simms

top 5 are in a class of their own, no others are worth listing.

lol, you mean the class of "scrubs & freakshows"?

how dare you disrespect the GOATs
My mistake, I don't know what I was thinking.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 11:30 am

I mean clearly Wes Simms would beat Lesnar with a flying gogo anyday... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 11:33 am

GDPofDRC wrote:
freakzilla316ftw wrote:
GDPofDRC wrote:
Josh Barnett would beat him in unspectacular fashion.

He's been caught with Steroids too many times to be included.

How does that change the fact that he would beat Carwin? And wtf, Carwin is an all time top ten Heavyweight? Even bad jokes are supposed to be a little funny in a bad way. He just got tapped by a dude who didn't do roids just got caught with a giant duffel full of them. Hate on Barnett all you want, he is a better fighter than most.

Without the roids he would be smaller, slower and much weaker. Therefor he wouldn't be as good of a fighter. Carwin would beat Barnett anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time?   Top Ten Heavyweights, All Time? EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 11:34 am

Well anyone could say the same thing about Carwin, or Lesnar, or anyone else big. But I guess only people who got caught ever really did it.
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killerofchicken wrote:
I mean clearly Wes Simms would beat Lesnar with a flying gogo anyday... Very Happy

It would look like it was straight out of the Tapout commercial
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