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PostSubject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121   Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:26 pm

true but i got Kampmann lol
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true but i got Kampmann lol

Me 2 LOL. TKO!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121   Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:29 pm

Shields by LnP more than likely.
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Shields by LnP more than likely.

I wouldnt be shocked at all. I think its nuts people think he would have a shot vs GSP though!!
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PostSubject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121   Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 8:51 pm

How would it be a gigantic upset for Kampmann to beat Shields? Kampmann doesn't gas after one round like Hendo did, he has a ground game, his striking is more technically sound than alot of guys'. Shields likely won't be able to take Kampmann down immediatelly because Kampmann will be watching for it, especially early. Gigantic upset? Hardly. Shields beating Hendo was a gigantic upset. Kampmann beating Shields would be a minor upset at best.
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PostSubject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121   Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 9:05 pm

Im going with the GDP argument, Shields is pretty darn good at winning fights. Big adv Shields is his survival skills vs Kampmann's lack of true KO power. Kamp might be more technical, but Shields will work his way inside, and take Kamp down, he does it to everyone.

And Kings is right, prior to Mayhem, Shields finished 8 fights in a row.
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PostSubject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121   Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 10:24 pm

Shields wins this question is doe she get a title shot after he wins

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PostSubject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121   Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 20, 2010 12:03 am

Meh, this has routine under two minute front choke victory written all over it.
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PostSubject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121   Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 20, 2010 12:59 pm

I think Kampmann will continue his comeback in this fight getting the upset. He's got a good sprawl and his standup is much better than Jake's.

I think Shields is going to be exposed in the UFC's WW division.
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+1 bigs
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PostSubject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121   Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 20, 2010 1:31 pm

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I think Kampmann will continue his comeback in this fight getting the upset. He's got a good sprawl and his standup is much better than Jake's.

I think Shields is going to be exposed in the UFC's WW division.

Come on, he is coming off consecutive wins over Hendo, Mayhem, and Lawler(and this is only a fraction of his current winning streak). Now a Kampmann type is going to expose Shields? Why? Cause he's in the UFC?

PS He's beaten Daley and Condit as well.(and Okami)
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PostSubject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121   Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 20, 2010 1:51 pm

Ya but capt haven't you heard, unless you're fighting at that moment in the big show you just aint as good. Come on man, I thought everyone knew the UFC inititals increase your fight stats by +10 in all areas. MMA outside the UFC may or may not even be real, can't say for sure. Duh.
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PostSubject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121   Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 20, 2010 1:53 pm

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Meh, this has routine under two minute front choke victory written all over it.

Wanna bet? I don't see Sheilds getting any finish here, if he does it will be in the 3rd.
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PostSubject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121   Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 20, 2010 2:02 pm

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Bigs03 wrote:
I think Kampmann will continue his comeback in this fight getting the upset. He's got a good sprawl and his standup is much better than Jake's.

I think Shields is going to be exposed in the UFC's WW division.

Come on, he is coming off consecutive wins over Hendo, Mayhem, and Lawler(and this is only a fraction of his current winning streak). Now a Kampmann type is going to expose Shields? Why? Cause he's in the UFC?

PS He's beaten Daley and Condit as well.(and Okami)

Don't forget forget Mike Pyle, who is not only in the UFC, he is on the UFC 120 poster
http://www.mmamania.com/2010/7/20/1578645/ufc-120-tickets-for-o2-arena-on

so that gives him 2 wins vs guys in that picture.
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PostSubject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121   Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 20, 2010 2:05 pm

Shields sub'd Pyle and Thompson easily in the first round and both of them are better on the ground than Kamp, and Thompson is a much better striker. Going back to the Pyle fight, Kamp probably represents the least challenging opponent he has faced.

Huge upset.
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Shields sub'd Pyle and Thompson easily in the first round and both of them are better on the ground than Kamp, and Thompson is a much better striker. Going back to the Pyle fight, Kamp probably represents the least challenging opponent he has faced.

Huge upset.

AV bet? Sheilds finishes the fight you win...Kamp survives or pulls out a win, I win.
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Wolfgangsta wrote:
Shields sub'd Pyle and Thompson easily in the first round and both of them are better on the ground than Kamp, and Thompson is a much better striker. Going back to the Pyle fight, Kamp probably represents the least challenging opponent he has faced.

Huge upset.

after this statement how can you not accept my AV bet offer? You seem to think Jake finishes this fight easy. So what is the problem? Jake finishes, you win.
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PostSubject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121   Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 20, 2010 2:16 pm

He won't go for it, Sooners. If I was high on Shields I'd go for it but I just don't think he'll be that spectacular against the top of the Welterweight division.
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He won't go for it, Sooners. If I was high on Shields I'd go for it but I just don't think he'll be that spectacular against the top of the Welterweight division.

why wouldn't he? His first message was "meh this has sub in under 2 min written all over it" or something like that. Then he says Jake has sub'd better fighters and this is weakest fighter Jake has faced in awhile. After saying all that, wouldn't this bet be a no brainer?
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PostSubject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121   Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 20, 2010 2:26 pm

I've never known Wolf to be a big sig bet kind of person here. Doesn't usually matter what kind of brainer the situation is he just doesn't seem that keen on the idea really.
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PostSubject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121   Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 20, 2010 2:49 pm

Isn't this the Lesnar card? I've got 200 bets riding on that fight already. However I'll bet this fight too. Head to win, win loss only. I got a Shields win, you get a Kamp win. Take it or leave it sooners.
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Isn't this the Lesnar card? I've got 200 bets riding on that fight already. However I'll bet this fight too. Head to win, win loss only. I got a Shields win, you get a Kamp win. Take it or leave it sooners.

LOL come on after all those big words? Really? Your going to puss out like that? Show me 1 time where I claimed Kamp would win and I'll take that bet. But you said sub in the first round, Jake has sub'd better fighters, Jake has finished better fighters recently. Kamp is the worse fighter in awhile for Jake....All that and nothing? Figured as much, stand behind your word is all I'm saying. Don't type all that shit if you don't believe it.
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the hunter becomes the hunted...
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PostSubject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121   Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 20, 2010 2:55 pm

no I'm just busting his balls because of his big talk on this fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121   Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 20, 2010 3:12 pm

Didn't think you wanted the bet. Cute, make unreasonable terms and make it out like I went looking for the bet so when your terms get denied you can claim some high ground or that I'm backing out.

There is still a good chance that Shields might ride him out to an ugly decision so why the fuck would I take that bet? Chances are he'd finish him the first round and that is still my prediction, I just am not stupid enough to take a sig bet on it.

Look dude, I know you're desperate to get revenge for LA's death or whatever but try harder yo.
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