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SOKO Black Belt
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| Subject: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:45 pm | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:49 pm | |
| Kampman via more well rounded. | |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Prodigy, The Great, Viking Dahmer, The Phenom Posts : 6474 Join date : 2009-09-12
| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:49 pm | |
| Shields should win, if Kampmann doesn't sprawl and brawl him to death. That Technical striking is a killer for a guy like Shields. | |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:51 pm | |
| I think in a three round fight Shields can win a decision. I don't see Kampmann having enough time in fifteen minutes to land the amount of strikes he'd need to for a TKO. I also don't think he can avoid the takedown forever while doing it in a three round fight. I'd put this at a 60-40 scenario leaning toward Shields.
The likely outcome is Shields will eventually get the takedown after eating a bunch of punches that didn't collectively scramble his eggs and ride Kampmann out or submit him from top position. | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:55 pm | |
| i don't think Shields is submitting Kampmann. His jits is very underrated. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:56 pm | |
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josh200612 Silver Belt
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:57 pm | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- Shields by LnP
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:13 pm | |
| I like Kampmann by TKO. This card is really starting to look good. | |
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:24 pm | |
| Unless Shields comes in with a big head undestimating Marty...he should grind Kampmann into the mat until he gets a submisson or a decision but you never know.. | |
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LTFG Brown Belt
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:37 pm | |
| Kamp "could" catch him... But I think not.
Shields has a solid chance of submitting him but will likely go Jake and bore us with a 30-27 LnP clinic!!! | |
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:02 pm | |
| I kind of feel for Jake getting a rep for a LnP fighter because before his last two fights he had finished about 8 in a row. Hard to say If Kampmann will be an easy finish..for somebody with the reputation as a striker i've actually been far more impressed with him grappling in his fights with Condit, Thiago and Volkmann. I thought Condit destroyed him in the stand up and Daley made him look like somebody who has had one boxing lesson. | |
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LTFG Brown Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Wolfy Posts : 2578 Join date : 2009-07-20 Age : 113 Location : Bend, OR.
| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:06 pm | |
| You're right Kings... But two things to consider. One is that Kamp's ground game is better than most give him credit for. Two is that now that Jake is getting his shot in the bog show, is he going to take risks? I think he plays it safe to get his feet wet so to speak... | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:22 pm | |
| 2 things going against Shields
1 - life long vegetarian 2 - no nickname
I'm still picking him because he has shown himself to be pretty damn good at winning fights. But, anything can happen. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:38 pm | |
| I don't know what kind of Big Show jitters Shields will have after being a headliner type fighter on CBS for two years. | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:03 pm | |
| Tough to imagine headlining against Hendo on Network TV to getting nervous for a non-main event Hitman fight.
It will be a grand stage though. Cain vs Brock is gonna garner a lot of buys and hype to the event. I hope they do Tito vs Chuck as the opening fight, cause I'm sick. | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:20 pm | |
| yea kampmann isn't the greatest struiker in the world, no shit, but it's at least respectable. Shields striking is just plain awful and he's not really showing signs of improvement. He's still pretty one dimensional and that's why i like Kampmann in this fight. | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:42 pm | |
| Yeah, I'd be surprised if he tried to stay on his feet. He has been able to get past some good strikers still (Lawler, Hendo, Daley, Condit) even with his marginal ability there. I'd like to see Martin tag and finally KO this guy, but it will be tough, he has a resiliency that has served him well. | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:44 pm | |
| true i'll give him that, Shields is a tough mother fucker and his bjj is legit | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:58 pm | |
| Kampmann beating Shields would be a gigantic upset. | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:00 pm | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:24 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Kampmann beating Shields would be a gigantic upset.
Gigantic really???? | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:24 pm | |
| This will be one stinky fight, expect it to cure insomnia. |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:25 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:25 pm | |
| - oggy420 wrote:
- dont sleep on this fight
I'll sleep during it. |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Sheilds VS Kampmann set for UFC 121 Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:26 pm | |
| I definitely think it Shields wins it may be a boring fight. | |
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