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Who wins?
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptySun Jul 04, 2010 6:23 pm

It may take a couple rounds but Brock will beat Cain.
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptySun Jul 04, 2010 6:25 pm

timthebim wrote:
It may take a couple rounds but Brock will beat Cain.
It depends when Brock takes him down. My guess is the first round but hey I though he would get Carwin down in the first also.
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptySun Jul 04, 2010 6:57 pm

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Not to mention, Lesnar will probably have 40-50 lbs on Cain once the fight happens because Brock will probably fight between 275-285 after the weigh-ins.

Mythology.

Brock said before other UFC fights and this one that he is only around 265 during the entire camp. He changed his diet since his illness and he will not be no fuckin 40 pounds bigger than Cain. Brock at most will be 270ish and Cain will come in 240-245. I wouldn't expect more than a 30 pound difference, tops. That is still a lot, but not enough to negate the rest of the mismatches Lesnar suffers in this fight.

In fact I'd imagine Lesnar might want to come in slightly lighter than normal to increase his speed and cardio for a Cain fight which is likely to last a long time.

Cain could beat Brock and do it rather easily.


I'll remember this one, maybe we'll end up adding it to your running wrong list...
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptySun Jul 04, 2010 7:05 pm

Brock
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptySun Jul 04, 2010 7:17 pm

LA are you trying to keep score because of me telling you to stop pestering me with those creepy private messages you kept sending? Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptySun Jul 04, 2010 7:20 pm

Not at all, I sent you a joke message, oh no!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 5:47 pm

ttt

I know some Cain supporters missed the vote
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 5:47 pm

No looks about right
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 5:48 pm

Yeah I don't think CainVelasquezFan has voted yet
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 6:04 pm

I see absolutely no way Cain wins. Cain will be quicker and probably land some shots on Lesnar but there is no chance he KO's that rockhead and he sure as hell isn't going to outwrestle. I think it will be a better fight but I was impressed with Lesnar's win and it made me even more confident that he will beat Cain.
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 6:09 pm

+1 bro
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 6:11 pm

and while we're at it, Wolf, Stefan Struve beats Lesnar too because he's alot taller and younger.
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 6:13 pm

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and while we're at it, Wolf, Stefan Struve beats Lesnar too because he's alot taller and younger.

LOL yeah he also beat the Head Hunter which gives him the advantage against Brock.
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 6:15 pm

yea I got Brock. Not sure how Cain is gonna be able to deal with the size and power of Lesnar once this fight is turned into a wrestling match.
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 9:23 pm

The real question here is...Will Wolfy continue to doubt Brock after he beats Cain?
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 9:50 pm

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The real question here is...Will Wolfy continue to doubt Brock after he beats Cain?

No. Soon the only contender left for the title will be Cro Cop(if he keeps winning), and Wolf will still argue that Brock is somehow fundamentally flawed to the point where he doesn't beat whoever the new challenger is for some reason. At the same time he will claim alot of us are over-hyping Brock, and making it out like Brock is being toted as a super hero who has super powers.
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 9:58 pm

I've got Brock. I think Cain poses a real threat, but i'll take Brock by size and power.
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 10:34 pm

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I've got Brock. I think Cain poses a real threat, but i'll take Brock by size and power.

Captain do u think he is a bigger threat than Carwin??
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 10:37 pm

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I've got Brock. I think Cain poses a real threat, but i'll take Brock by size and power.

Captain do u think he is a bigger threat than Carwin??

No. But i don't see Cain completely gassing after the first rnd either.
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 10:43 pm

If the same fight played out and cain was on top of Brock the same way trying to finish and didnt I think he may gas out also.
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 10:49 pm

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I see absolutely no way Cain wins. Cain will be quicker and probably land some shots on Lesnar but there is no chance he KO's that rockhead and he sure as hell isn't going to outwrestle. I think it will be a better fight but I was impressed with Lesnar's win and it made me even more confident that he will beat Cain.

Combat I can understand how you'd think that, but I think we've both seen enough MMA to realize banking on some "indestructable chin factor" and basing an entire matchup off that is usually a bad idea. Fighters like Nog were the exception to the rule, and I don't know how many come from behind rope a dope sub's of that nature Lesnar has in him.

Let's not make it seem like Brock took those shots in stride either, he has admitted himself that he thought the fight might have been stopped at one point.

I've just kind of grown out of the idea that X heavyweight in MMA doesn't hit hard enough to stop Y heavyweight in MMA. Cain has stopped everyone he has ever faced inside three rounds besides Chieck Kongo. Cain can sustain that kind of beating for a full five rounds.

If Lesnar wins I'll give him full credit and take back everything I've said about him. But Cain is at least as good or superior in every aspect of MMA other than having an extra 25 pounds and a few inches in length.
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 10:51 pm

Has any1 seen the odds on the fight yet??
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 10:53 pm

I donno but if this poll is any indication I'll be betting big dollars on this fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 10:56 pm

U got the extra money to lose on Cain??
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PostSubject: Re: Cain vs Brock   Cain vs Brock - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 05, 2010 10:56 pm

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If the same fight played out and cain was on top of Brock the same way trying to finish and didnt I think he may gas out also.

But Cain fight's different then Carwin, he grinds, his game is constant pressure, we've seen him go 3 rnds applying that pressure from start to finish. Carwin was going for KO or bust, and for a guy who had never been out of the 1st rnd, that proved deadly when he didn't finish.
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