Kennedy vs Jacare being worked on for SF: Houston

Apparently they don't know if its for the vacant title or just one of the tourney bouts yet

it better not be for the belt. I want a tourney.

They never know what they're doing

I like Kennedy but all signs point to Jacare taking this

No shit. How do you hype up a tourney so much but really have no clue what the fuck you're doing?

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

They never know what they're doing

I like Kennedy but all signs point to Jacare taking this

I'm leaning Kennedy, a bigger guy, with a better motor.

Vs a grappling phenom with better striking?

your boy smoking joe took Jacare the distance.

And got dominated, lets not try to act like he wasn't, a very easy 30-27 fight

That fight was close, not as close as Gus made it sound but it was closer than 30-27 sounds, by a lot, even if that is a legit score.

Strikeforce is doing a good job given the current situation. Kennedy and Jacare are pushing for this to be a title bout, and these two have been floated for a potential vacancy bout for a while. They're probably weighing weather they think the fight will be worth more viewers as a tournament or title bout. No reason to take pot shots at them.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

And got dominated, lets not try to act like he wasn't, a very easy 30-27 fight

fair enough, but ease up on the phenom (A term you would never use regarding Jacare in a 185 ranking discusion) business. Heck I thought Jacare looked great in that fight, but I'm leaning Kennedy.

Kennedy hasn't been tested since Mayhem and he did well in that fight and holds a prior win over him, and Mayhem and Jacare are about at eachothers level. Kennedy is my pick, but this fight is close.

Well, the thing about the tourny is the word is the old guys like Henderson and Cung Le don't want to do a tournament.

So, maybe they want to pick the two guys they like the best to fight for the vacant belt and maybe use the tournament for a #1 contender thing using up and comers like Rockhold and Ammoussou with a Lawler or Manhoef thrown it.

Henderson and Cung Le are two of your best middleweights. They don't want to fight in a tournament format where fights are likely to be close together..fuckin geezers. Mayhem and Nick Diaz will still be serving suspensions by the time Houston rolls around.

Then you have to look at how many fights certain guys have on their contracts and if it's compatable with a tournament format. I think Jacare has 2 fights left on his SF contract? what if he wins the first two fights of the tournament? That's probably why they are thinking that this may be a a fight for the vacant belt because of contract and they think Jacare or Tim is the shit and want to get the championship clause kicked in.

It sounds good on paper and i had some great ideas but if guys like Dan Henderson and Cung Le don't want to be involved...and others like Mayhem and Diaz can't be apart of it...then whats the point on having a tourny for the belt if most of your best middleweights won't be involved?

Might as well use it to showcase up and comers against some veterans, but in that case it should be a 16 man tournament. Without everybody else it was more than likely going to end up being Kennedy/Jacare anyway...but man, i do hope this turns out to be a tournament fight and guys like Hendo and Cung come around.

Jacare keeps improving. His ground game is better than Werdums. He's up there with Garcia and Gracie. Jacare will win this fight and take over SF's MW division.

do we know if Hendo is anti tourney?

And I'd push back the start date in order to get Mayhem and Diaz in.

tourney would be huge fun, and by getting through the tourney the winner would have EARNED the belt. This fighting for the vacant title, because we are tired of paying the old champion stuff is pretty lame.

Contracts? restructure em.

Well, we'll see if this is for the vacant belt or a first round tourny bout but this is a fuckin awesoem fight.

The fights where i'm a huge fan of both fighters are bittersweet.

I'm really high on both of these guys but i'm going to go with Jacare via submission.

Armchair fight promoting is so easy.

it is a sweet fight.

If it were a tourney, I would not choose to match these guys up in the first round.

I say make it a 4 man tourney.

Jacare v Kennedy
Lawler v Hendo

Le can fight the winner of Diaz v Miller. Then the winner of that can have a title shot.

Jacare will kill him IMO

Kennedy all the way baby.

I'm taking Kennedy in the upset as well...