Who views Werdum as MMA's "lineal" HW champion?

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I know what "Lineal" means and no Werdum is not. This is like the 10th thread about why a UFC HW is not the real deal. Let's just be honest here.

lol "wolfs concept"

combat sports noob. LA 2007 was the year you started liking MMA right? Never been a boxing fan right? Yes or no answers please.

Like I said Wolf....

Im busting ur balls Wolf, but I've talked multiple times on here about Boxing fights I watched in the 90s, think I was a boxing fan first. In general though the concept of the pineal Champ is something I've never been a believer in.

Nicely said Beats

pineal LOL

Werdum is the lineal Champion. He beat the best HW in the world, the real HW Champion of MMA....how is that wrong?

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

Werdum is the lineal Champion. He beat the best HW in the world, the real HW Champion of MMA....how is that wrong?

Based on that argument, Werdum got schooled by JDS, went to another organization and schooled the alleged GOAT and lineal champion, that means the title goes to JDS. Junior is considered the 4th or 5th best HW in his organization, which basically means this thread is dead.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

Werdum is the lineal Champion. He beat the best HW in the world, the real HW Champion of MMA....how is that wrong?

Based on that argument, Werdum got schooled by JDS, went to another organization and schooled the alleged GOAT and lineal champion, that means the title goes to JDS. Junior is considered the 4th or 5th best HW in his organization, which basically means this thread is dead.

How would the title go to JDS? When JDS fought Werdum neither guy had a belt or any form of any title attached to their name. Werdum worked his way back up to a title shot. He beat the legit HW Champion. What would have happened if Thales Leites won over Anderson? He would have been the UFC MW Champion. They wouldn't give the belt to Kampmann because he beat Leites. Even though Anderson is the better fighter Leites would still hold the belt. Werdum is not the best HW in the world, but he is the HW Champion.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

Werdum is the lineal Champion. He beat the best HW in the world, the real HW Champion of MMA....how is that wrong?

Based on that argument, Werdum got schooled by JDS, went to another organization and schooled the alleged GOAT and lineal champion, that means the title goes to JDS. Junior is considered the 4th or 5th best HW in his organization, which basically means this thread is dead.

How would the title go to JDS? When JDS fought Werdum neither guy had a belt or any form of any title attached to their name. Werdum worked his way back up to a title shot. He beat the legit HW Champion. What would have happened if Thales Leites won over Anderson? He would have been the UFC MW Champion. They wouldn't give the belt to Kampmann because he beat Leites. Even though Anderson is the better fighter Leites would still hold the belt. Werdum is not the best HW in the world, but he is the HW Champion.

I know but this whole lineal thing has gotten stupid. I know what it means, but it just sounds like a guy bitching because the ref made a questionable call and his team lost the Superbowl. Eventually, it becomes the smae bitchfest. Plus via retardation, some have now listed Werdum as #1 in the HW division and there is no logic behind that at all. Though I am sure that by beating Fedor Werdum would get another shot at the UFC.

That makes no sense. How is it so hard to call Werdum Champion? I wouldn't expect you to agree you have a extremely warped sense of reality. Anyone that claims Fedor isn't a top 4 HW lost all credibility in my book. Your being hard headed and hugging the UFC's nuts as you love to do. Like it or not Werdum is the HW Champion of the world. Doesn't matter if you like or accept it, doesn't make it any less true.

The UFC's marketing and the ability to turn outwardly intelligent people into sheep who believe a circumvented logic cannot be praised enough, for better or worse. The Government isn't even this good at controlling people's thoughts.


The UFC has convinced millions a 4-1 pro wrestler is better than an experienced ADCC winner who just submitted the best fighter of all time. Can't make this shit up.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

That makes no sense. How is it so hard to call Werdum Champion? I wouldn't expect you to agree you have a extremely warped sense of reality. Anyone that claims Fedor isn't a top 4 HW lost all credibility in my book. Your being hard headed and hugging the UFC's nuts as you love to do. Like it or not Werdum is the HW Champion of the world. Doesn't matter if you like or accept it, doesn't make it any less true.

You guys take this shit so personally. But I will try to explain as simple as possible. I have my UFC top 4 HWs as Brock, Carwin, Cain, JDS. In SF I have them Werdum, Brock, Alistair. With me so far? I hope so.

Now, we already know for a fact that JDS took Werdum to school and Fab got KTFO in the 1st. We all also know that Fedor just got schooled by Werdum by sub in the 1st, the same Werdum who got KTFO by JDS. So that makes my list look like this. Brock, Carwin, Cain, JDS, Werdum, Fedor. I don't know how that is either stupid or disrespectful, considering that up until Saturday night, I have always listed Fedor as #1 in the HW division. He lost rather badly to a guy he should have turned into mincemeat considering the whole GOAT thing. He didn't and he didn't even look like in good shape. I could have dropped him farther, but I didn't because I think if he fights again, he is going to hurt someone very badly.

Well I understand your perspective, but it is highly biased toward retroactive MMAth, and even the most low end UFC-boot-licking user here usually dismisses that kind of thinking. Just sayin'.

Now I get it.

Andre Mussi > Joaquim Ferreira > JDS > Werdum > Fedor