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 Most dangerous guard player in MMA in June 2010.

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BJ Penn
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Frank Mir
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Shinya Aoki
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Nate Diaz
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Nick Diaz
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Big Nog
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Damian Maia
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Gegard Mousasi
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Paulo Filho
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Dan Hornbuckle(lol)
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PostSubject: Re: Most dangerous guard player in MMA in June 2010.   Most dangerous guard player in MMA in June 2010. - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 23, 2010 7:11 pm

i think this all has to do with the judging system. Guys have been tought that if they are on their back, they are losing the fight. Even if they are outworking the guy on top and threatening with submissions, judges always seem to reward the guy on top. So fighters have had to adjust. Now they are more focused on ways to get back up to their feet than learning rubber guard or how to control someone's posture in the guard.
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PostSubject: Re: Most dangerous guard player in MMA in June 2010.   Most dangerous guard player in MMA in June 2010. - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 23, 2010 8:14 pm

Good insight Oggy but I think BJJ would have naturally gone down this route anyway. The guard isn't dead really. People are subbin dudes off their back at every event, but at the top levels subs are so hard to come by TKOs are just plain more likely. Also this stems from the fact at the popular weight classes the best fighters gain that perception by being exciting - not sitting in guard for long enough for niggaz to pull subs. Even Royce sometimes took a long long time to snag the submission against whitebelts.

Chael may not be that bad at sub defense, maybe he just sits in guard enough to be sub'd more than other fighters.
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PostSubject: Re: Most dangerous guard player in MMA in June 2010.   Most dangerous guard player in MMA in June 2010. - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 23, 2010 8:23 pm

Mir, Hornbuckle, and Mousasi over Werdum and Fedor on list? Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Most dangerous guard player in MMA in June 2010.   Most dangerous guard player in MMA in June 2010. - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 23, 2010 8:34 pm

Fedor was meant to be in the poll so was Werdum but I ran out of options and it wouldn't let me add everyone. Hornbuckle was a joke.
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PostSubject: Re: Most dangerous guard player in MMA in June 2010.   Most dangerous guard player in MMA in June 2010. - Page 2 EmptyThu Jun 24, 2010 12:59 am

I went Aoki. He's one of the few people in MMA that his opponents are scared to be in his guard.
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PostSubject: Re: Most dangerous guard player in MMA in June 2010.   Most dangerous guard player in MMA in June 2010. - Page 2 EmptyThu Jun 24, 2010 1:19 am

Wow no votes for Maia?
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PostSubject: Re: Most dangerous guard player in MMA in June 2010.   Most dangerous guard player in MMA in June 2010. - Page 2 EmptySun Jun 27, 2010 3:09 pm

Wolfgangsta wrote:
Fedor was meant to be in the poll so was Werdum but I ran out of options and it wouldn't let me add everyone. Hornbuckle was a joke.

Told you, you should have had Werdum. I guess you didn't think that highly of him last week since you'd rather put your "jokes" in there over him.
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PostSubject: Re: Most dangerous guard player in MMA in June 2010.   Most dangerous guard player in MMA in June 2010. - Page 2 EmptySun Jun 27, 2010 4:47 pm

It was more the fact I ran out of options and mistakenly didn't put him in the poll. My mistake. Big one looks like. Certainly if I double checked I'd put him in before Mousasi and Hornbuckle.
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