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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyThu Jun 17, 2010 9:47 pm

Fugii has beat her once already actually, and she has run into trouble with a couple of other submission artists in Japan too.
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 12:18 am

Askren is the shit.

My opinion on Horbuckle has not changed. He's extremely dangerous on the ground but Askren is just too good on the mat. He's going to tear through a lot of guys...including Lyman Good.
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 12:23 am

The smacktalk was epic. This kid will be a star. He will ultimately be a fully white version of Josh Koscheck.
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 12:26 am

...with way sicker wrestling
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 12:32 am

ya and a larger fro infact.

If Askren can get his standup to the level of Koscheck's current standup he will win the UFC title eventually.
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 12:32 am

Just watched Ward...she was facing a kid but sick choke.

Man, i hope Pitbull beats Warren.
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 12:40 am

Why?
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 1:50 am

I enjoy his style more than Warren's.
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 2:21 am

Warren I think has more WEC contender upside though, don't you?
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 2:38 am

We'll find out...i think they both have "WEC contender upside" though no matter who wins.
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 2:57 am

Askren win?
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 3:00 am

YYYYEAAAAA MOTHA FUCKIN FUNK Y BEN ASKREN LIONS DEN WOOOOHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gotta admit, he may have the best wrestling ive ever seen in MMA, never seen anyone on their back with an opponent standing and then nail a double leg, same with being on his back in a kimura and seemlessly transition to side mount

I am taking Askren over Good

DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 3:01 am

Bird in the house, what up playa

Nice I picked him late, figured his wrestling would be dominant
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 3:04 am

hell ya LA dominant isnt wven the right word, he owned hornbuckle tonight

how impressive?

Askren beats GSP within 2 years IMO impressive!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 3:09 am

Chill bro, Askren would have the best wrestling GSP has seen, but at the same time GSP makes other top wrestlers look like nobodies, he'd hold his own for sure, his striking will always be light years better, jj will be a wash by then. Both guys need to be in the UFC though
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 3:13 am

after tonight, if askren learns ground and pound more, and works on standing just to be ready for GS, i really think he could beat him, his wrestling is nuts, he owned Hornbuckle tonight, totally getting ahed of myself but the potential is there to be a future UFC and bellator champ

it was funny everytime ornbuckle tried to get up Askren was having none of it, really cant remember the last time i saw someone dominated so bad in the wrestling aspect
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 3:14 am

Yeah but Hornbuckle has been taken down easy in his other fights, GSP is a freak
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 3:21 am

thats all true but Askren wasnt just getting easy takedowns, he took a sloppy shot barely got a leg and managed to get a single, he got put on his back and transitioned to side mount off of sheer strength, anytime he got in trouble he just powered his way out of it.

He is young, but if he keeps learning he could own the division IMO, I will have to see someone out muscle Askren to believe it
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 11:10 am

Picking Askren to beat GSP based on his domination of Dan Hornbuckle is a little naive. Askren is nowhere near ready to take on the best fighter in the world at WW.

That being said, Askren has awesome wrestling. Hornbuckle's takedown D was nonexistant, though. Askren is a helluva prospect but I don't see a win over GSP in his future.
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 11:47 am

LA can't you just let him be a homer in peace?
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 2:23 pm

Bigs03 wrote:
Picking Askren to beat GSP based on his domination of Dan Hornbuckle is a little naive. Askren is nowhere near ready to take on the best fighter in the world at WW.

That being said, Askren has awesome wrestling. Hornbuckle's takedown D was nonexistant, though. Askren is a helluva prospect but I don't see a win over GSP in his future.

It was extra nonexistant. Hornbuckle was practically jumping to his back the second Askren got close to his legs.
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 3:38 pm

not saying i think Askren will beat up GSP tomorow, jsut saying I wont be shocked if thats the guy to unearth GSP from the UFC belt down the road
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 3:38 pm

and takedown d looks nonexistent when your fighting the best wrestler in all of MMA more than likely
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 3:40 pm

The lack of takedown D was all Askren's skill there.
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PostSubject: Re: Bellator 22 Tonight   Bellator 22 Tonight - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 3:45 pm

agree wolf

before this fight there werent many people picking Askren to beat Hornbuckle

yet alone dominate him like a 8 year old girl
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