Kampmann wants Hardy

Don't nowhere to jump in here but I'll try

Thiago is good and likable, he needs to focus just on MMA, but it probably won't happen. His wrestling needs work/takedown D. Part of me just thinks Kampmann was a bad matchup for him, it happens sometimes, Page/Chuck.

I'm with those who'd pick Hardy over Kampmann, I'd give all the edges striking to Hardy, he's pretty solid there, and moves his head, Kampmann's is on a T at times. Kamp could get Hardy down and sub him, but GSP had a hard enough time subbing Hardy and Kamp wrestling isn't GSP's, plus I think Hardy has better takedown D then you'd think.

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plus I think Hardy has better takedown D then you'd think.

This.

based on what?

I'd pick Kampmann over Hardy. Kampmann is back, he's ready to contend at 170 again. Hardy was the flavor of the month, he's overrated.

Kampmann never was. He was ran out of MW for the same reasons he will lose at WW. He dropped down after Nate blasted his stationary head off his shoulders. Will happen again.

Bigs I would challenge you to actually look at this match up rationally and a little more deeply than spouting shallow thoughtless "omg flavor of the month overrated" rhetoric. Kampmann never was, so there is no way for him to be "back".

I am sorry boys, but a European kickboxer who sucks at kickboxing isn't going to become a tour de force of wrestling and submissions. Kampmann wouldn't even be in the top twenty at LW or LHW. He is a top ten WW I will concede at this point, but this is only because Thiago looked like ass compared to his other recent fights, and the division has shitty depth.

I think that is a bit harsh Wolf, he didn't do bad at MW he just got outclassed by Nate who is still a top of the line MW. I think the guy has some real skill and is talented enough to threaten for a title shot. I honestly think he underestimated Daley when he stepped in for Swick. I think Kamp vs Hardy is a very good matchup.

GolbeZ wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

GolbeZ wrote:

ridiculous.

Que ?

It's ridiculous that I mentioned Hardy vs Condit and got scoffed at, and yet Kampmann (somebody Condit clearly beat) wants Hardy and nothing.

Hardy vs Condit would be a great fight, I scoffed at the idea of Condit vs Hathaway.

Honestly, I would rather see a Condit/Hardy matchup, I think that would be one hell of an exciting fight.

Wow Thiago looked like total ass. I just watched that fight finally and Thiago did nothing, no sweeps, nothing. Bad camp or injured or something.

Kampmann will never beat Daley, Hardy, Fitch, Alves, Koscheck, GSP or Nick Diaz in 100 tries.

The UFC's top WW's in two years will be mostly new faces not ranked now, that is for sure.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Wow Thiago looked like total ass. I just watched that fight finally and Thiago did nothing, no sweeps, nothing. Bad camp or injured or something.

Kampmann will never beat Daley, Hardy, Fitch, Alves, Koscheck, GSP or Nick Diaz in 100 tries.

The UFC's top WW's in two years will be mostly new faces not ranked now, that is for sure.

wow some of those names just don't belong in the same sentence together. IMO Kos,Fitch,Diaz and Alves have a shot to beat any WW in the world(not named GSP) on any given night. I think Hardy and Daley are closer to Kamp and Condit then the guys you listed.

Has Daley got a fight or new organization lined up ? I would love to see Daley throw down with Nick Diaz.

I dont even get how you guys can say that Nick Diaz is up there with those guys.

I would take any one of the fighters wolf listed PLUS Kampmann over Diaz.

NoRegret wrote:

I dont even get how you guys can say that Nick Diaz is up there with those guys.

I would take any one of the fighters wolf listed PLUS Kampmann over Diaz.

Diaz would rape Kamp.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

NoRegret wrote:

I dont even get how you guys can say that Nick Diaz is up there with those guys.

I would take any one of the fighters wolf listed PLUS Kampmann over Diaz.

Diaz would rape Kamp.

With what? his slap-style punches?

IMO they would be pretty even on the ground. So that nullifies that as well.

I see Wolf's point... Strong?... Perhaps. But if Daley can tag that chin, I'm guessing Hardy can get to it as well.

Like I said in the beginning... I like this fight. I don't think that Kampmann will be able to GSP Hardy for 3 rounds though. I think he will have to stand and trade quite a bit more than he wants to...

Ali_1748 wrote:

Has Daley got a fight or new organization lined up ? I would love to see Daley throw down with Nick Diaz.

He has signed with Impact FC, and will be fighting on the card in July against Chute Box scrub, Daniel Acacio. Acacio normally fights at MW I think though, so I'm not sure what weight is planned. Probably won't matter...

NoRegret wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

NoRegret wrote:

I dont even get how you guys can say that Nick Diaz is up there with those guys.

I would take any one of the fighters wolf listed PLUS Kampmann over Diaz.

Diaz would rape Kamp.

With what? his slap-style punches?

IMO they would be pretty even on the ground. So that nullifies that as well.

What? Even on the ground? Diaz BJJ is miles and miles above Kamp's.

NoRegret wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

NoRegret wrote:

I dont even get how you guys can say that Nick Diaz is up there with those guys.

I would take any one of the fighters wolf listed PLUS Kampmann over Diaz.

Diaz would rape Kamp.

With what? his slap-style punches?

IMO they would be pretty even on the ground. So that nullifies that as well.

Regret... I think I'm easily the biggest Diaz hater on the board... But you have to look at the reality of things. He would wreck Kampmann standing and most certainly on the ground. Those slaps you speak of are one of the most effective set-up tools that either Diaz uses and are very frustrating for opponents to plan for. Kampmann has no answers for Nick anywhere...

Bingo. Diaz would destroy Kampmann.

Kamp would take him down and get Omaplata'd or armbarred after a round and a half/150-200 punches have added layers of scar tissue to Kamps stationary face.

LikesToFightGuy wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

Has Daley got a fight or new organization lined up ? I would love to see Daley throw down with Nick Diaz.

He has signed with Impact FC, and will be fighting on the card in July against Chute Box scrub, Daniel Acacio. Acacio normally fights at MW I think though, so I'm not sure what weight is planned. Probably won't matter...

Thanks for the info.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Kampmann never was. He was ran out of MW for the same reasons he will lose at WW. He dropped down after Nate blasted his stationary head off his shoulders. Will happen again.

Bigs I would challenge you to actually look at this match up rationally and a little more deeply than spouting shallow thoughtless "omg flavor of the month overrated" rhetoric. Kampmann never was, so there is no way for him to be "back".

I am sorry boys, but a European kickboxer who sucks at kickboxing isn't going to become a tour de force of wrestling and submissions. Kampmann wouldn't even be in the top twenty at LW or LHW. He is a top ten WW I will concede at this point, but this is only because Thiago looked like ass compared to his other recent fights, and the division has shitty depth.

And I challenge you to not be so irrational all the time. Hardy isn't gonna destroy Kampmann just because Wolf said so. Kampmann doesn't have the power that Hardy has but other than the fight will be a mismatch in Kampmann's favor. If this fight goes to the ground, and it will, Hardy will be completely outclassed.

Condit beats Hardy also, even from his back.

Condit beats WEC losers off his back. Dan Hardy would have a rougher time with him than Kampmann. I guess bigs doesn't really know how to breakdown striking styles. It's cool.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Condit beats WEC losers off his back. Dan Hardy would have a rougher time with him than Kampmann. I guess bigs doesn't really know how to breakdown striking styles. It's cool.