Tito telling Anyone Not to Quit ........

Overeem was most certainly winning that fight and tagging Chuck until getting buried with that overhand right. Dana probably had piss going down his leg that night

your wrong Oggy

Chuck KOS Tito EVERYTIME

ahahah

Yea but bottom line, Chuck still knocked Overeem the FUCK out. He did his job. Apparently you have to dominate every second of the striking or you become overrated now i guess.

What does Machida have to do with this? He got Ko'd by a better striker in his Prime than Chuck.

The point is that Randy and Tito were great fights for Chuck, and that if Chuck were fighting higher caliber strikers the results would be very different.

I figured this was common knowledge at this point.

oggy420 wrote:

Yea but bottom line, Chuck still knocked Overeem the FUCK out. He did his job. Apparently you have to dominate every second of the striking or you become overrated now i guess.

Yeah a 22 year old Reem vs. Chuck in his prime, ur missing the point of all this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-U83FjCVuA

greatest 2 seconds of my life!

Followed by the worst

Well he's fought and beaten some great strikers so sorry i don't agree. I think Chuck in his prime could bang with the best and hold his own.

im not missing the point. You guys are saying chuck is an overrated striker. I am simply disagreeing.

He really didn't though

its so funny look how crazy all the people in the background go, look at the guy in the red shirt and red hat who starts going air punch crazy hahahahaha

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Followed by the worst

tousche hahahahah

that was a hard night

I still havent gotten over it

im just gonna let this one go. No point in arguing.

Chuck is one of my favorite fighters all-time but I'm also logical enough to realize it, who is the best striker Chuck beat in his and their prime?

There is hardly a bout with a striker Chuck was in his over entire career that if he didn't have a chin of stone he wouldn't have been sleeping in. His defense has always been porous at best and flatout bad at worst. His defense against both head punches and leg kicks is terrible.

Overeem was beating the fucking shit out of Chuck and Guy Mezger was beating the holy shit out of Chuck and Rampage did beat the shit out of Chuck. None of these guys were close to the best LHW in Pride at the time and Liddell barely survived bouts with all of them.

You can't tell me his striking isn't overrated when every striker he has ever faced almost or did knock him out. It is no secret the UFC chose to recycle wrestlers who were scared to death of his power than make an effort to bring in strikers during his run. There is a reason Couture thought he could chase Chuck down, and Chuck only started to lose once he got into bouts with strikers who would beat him standing as opposed to shooting for takedowns in fear.

Liddell is one of my top fighters, and I rooted for him against both Tito and Wanderlei when those fights went down, but I see things for what they are. If Liddell had ever fought Mirko Crocop that would have been one of the most one sided assbeatings in Pride history. I don't think Liddell would last 5 minutes with Crocop.

I donno why Chuck fankids have to take the reality so personally. We like Chuck too, he just as a striker is overrated. There is also a case against Ortiz and his pure wrestling being overrated.

I think you're putting to much into the opponents. As far as strikers at the LHW division he's def top 3 all time imo. Shogun and Page ahead and that's it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOSXP1eyHss


this is funny

Poor Tito aint the greatest interviewer

also love how Tito ruins Mark Colemans last moment in the octagon, atleast Coleman told him like the punk bitch he is

Shogun
Wandy
Machida
Rampage

Liddell wasn't the best striker, but he was one hell of a puncher. His chin, wrestling ability both offensively and defensively and his power masked all his mistakes.

How are you gonna honestly rank Wand over Chuck? I dont care if they weren't in their prime, that fight still counts for something.

Im with Oggy, Chuck is a pure striker who most rank in the top 2 all time at 205, how can we then say his striking is overrated. Power and chin have to be factored in. It is with Rua.

captain organic wrote:

Im with Oggy, Chuck is a pure striker who most rank in the top 2 all time at 205, how can we then say his striking is overrated. Power and chin have to be factored in. It is with Rua.

I concur my captain

Doesn't weigh heavily on it they were both past their prime, is Rashad a better striker then Chuck?

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Doesn't weigh heavily on it they were both past their prime, is Rashad a better striker then Chuck?

Rashad was in his prime, Chuck wasnt

So you think Tito could beat a "prime" Wandy but not Chuck?

interesting

Chuck is 1/2 alltime at LHW based on legacy and resume, but talent would be very different.

This is a talent argument, saying he was overrated as a striker.