How long can Fedor hang on to #1?

I was just thinking that if someone comes out of this heavyweight tournament of sorts with Velasquez, Carwin, Mir, Lesnar and potentially Gonzaga/Dos Santos, would that fighter deserve to be the number #1 heavyweight?

These guys have trashed the guys that made Fedor #1 [Nog, Herring, Sylvia and Crocop], and to be honest the future doesn't look too challenging for Fedor with bouts against possible top tens like Werdum, and maybe Overeem [I have my doubts this will happen].

If someone emerges from the UFC's HW division unscathed this time next year, would you make the argument that they are #1? I would have a hard time arguing against it.

1.5 more years

I dunno. This is something I was thinking of myself. At some point, the new crop of heavyweights are gonna be too athletic and skilled for even Fedor to handle. These guys have skills that nobody Fedor's fought can even touch, so you have to start wondering if Fedor should hang on to that number one spot while he's fighting the scrubs he is. I'd still have him as my number one right now, but I don't know how long he'd last in the UFC against the likes of dos Santos, Lesnar, Velasquez, and Carwin.

He will lose his number one slot after this mini HW tourney. These guys are fighting the absolute best. I really wish he would come over now because by the time he comes to the UFC and gets owned like Nog did everyone on here will say oh he is getting old and has no head movement. Which like Nog he never really had good head movement.

muayjitsu wrote:

He will lose his number one slot after this mini HW tourney. These guys are fighting the absolute best. I really wish he would come over now because by the time he comes to the UFC and gets owned like Nog did everyone on here will say oh he is getting old and has no head movement. Which like Nog he never really had good head movement.

Exactly, when has Nog ever looked good outside of Couture? He's always taken beatings then pulled off a sub out of nowehere.

Yeah, Nog has made some really bad fighters look pretty good before he pulls the win out of his ass. He's always been VERY hittable. Same with Fedor. I just don't know if they can handle the new athletes at heavyweight. The division is changing, and I think it's about to leave those legends behind real soon.

chorky777 wrote:

Yeah, Nog has made some really bad fighters look pretty good before he pulls the win out of his ass. He's always been VERY hittable. Same with Fedor. I just don't know if they can handle the new athletes at heavyweight. The division is changing, and I think it's about to leave those legends behind real soon.

Fedor is very hittable? Where did you get that from? He is one of the hardest fighters to hit in the sport. -

http://www.fightmetric.com/blog/2009/01/fedor-emelianenko-vs-lyoto-machida.html

Yeah no heavyweight who's getting in the ring with big ass fuckers every fight is going 32-1 if they are easy to hit lol

Question - How long can Fedor hold on to number 1?

Answer - As long as he keeps trashing top 10 HW's.

AA ranked 2nd, KO'd instantly, Timmy ranked 5th, destroyed in a flash. Rogers ranked 7th, decapitated in front of millions.

You can use MMA math to make all these young guns look better than Fedor because they beat a bunch of UFC mid levelers and some fading HW's that Fedor destroyed in their ultimate primes if you want, but not everyone will buy it.

I refuse to believe Fedor's path to greatness lies through a bunch of prospects who themselves only found their greatness through beating the shells of guys Fedor has already beat, or guys who weren't good enough to be HW champion in the UFC 3 and 4 years ago when Tim and AA ruled.

I am not hating on these guys at all, but lets slow down and breathe for a moment.

Fedor will stay number 1 as long as he stays active and keeps winning in my opion. he eventually will run out of worthy challengers and will have to come to the UFC or he will no longer be considered the best in my book.

My fear is Fedor will be on his natural decline but the time he runs into someone like Cain in the UFC who is in their prime, and then Fedor will be judged by that and not his entire career.

In a perfect world, Fedor knocks out Werdum then literally decapitates Overeem in the ring and after that makes his way to the UFC. I'm honestly not sure if we'll see that happen

I don't see Valesquez popping Fedor like he did Nog. As has been mentioned before, Nog gets hit very often in his fights, Fedor is like the Machida of the Heavyweight division..he's very elusive. The only guys I see that would make me nervous for Fedor would be Brock and Mir. I still think Fedor is the best in the world, he's faster than every heavyweight, he's better on the ground than every heavyweight, and you've got to think he's still relatively fresh even at this stage of his career because of the lack of punishment he's taken in his fights up until this point.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

My fear is Fedor will be on his natural decline but the time he runs into someone like Cain in the UFC who is in their prime, and then Fedor will be judged by that and not his entire career.

It will be a cost of him deciding to wait till the end of his career to go to the UFC. main stream fans dont really know him and wont till he hits the UFC.

LOL at the fedor is the machida of the HW division how many fast good strikers has he faced. All the real strikers faced have tagged him. Brett Rogers, AA, and even HMC. Fedor is the greatest HW ever but not as elusive as you people say. I feel he is number one now but will be deserving to lose that spot if whoever comes out of this HW tourney on top finishes fight like cain or brock has.

muayjitsu wrote:

LOL at the fedor is the machida of the HW division how many fast good strikers has he faced. All the real strikers faced have tagged him. Brett Rogers, AA, and even HMC. Fedor is the greatest HW ever but not as elusive as you people say. I feel he is number one now but will be deserving to lose that spot if whoever comes out of this HW tourney on top finishes fight like cain or brock has.

Brett Rogers landed a single jab standing. Then he landed 2 or 3 clean punches on the ground while all the others were blocked. I guess if someone lands 5 punches on Fedor in a fight he is getting seriously tagged?


Most of the punches in the AA didn't land clean at all. Check out this thread. - http://www.mmaforum.com/affliction/50824-arlovski-vs-fedor-slow-motion-pics.html


HMC outweighed Fedor by 170lb....all his punches were landed on top of Fedor. Not standing.


You also missed Hunt, Cro Cop, and Semmy......I don't need to remind you what happened in those fights.

i don't know, but when he does lose his #1 spot at HW i want him to move to LHW and give that a go.

Depends on if he makes the move to UFC.
If he doesn't then there is Werdum, Bigfoot, Overeem, Mo, Lashley out there ready to be conquered. Assuming he can run through who is put in front of him then he has a good chance of retaining his position for at least three years. If he makes the move and runs through everyone then he retains the position for all time. Not having the situation facilitate fights between the best fucks up trying to place guys though. UFC's pulsar HW's would still need to build longer resumes of dominance before there are legitimate claims of superiority without fighting the man himself.

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:

chorky777 wrote:

Yeah, Nog has made some really bad fighters look pretty good before he pulls the win out of his ass. He's always been VERY hittable. Same with Fedor. I just don't know if they can handle the new athletes at heavyweight. The division is changing, and I think it's about to leave those legends behind real soon.

Fedor is very hittable? Where did you get that from? He is one of the hardest fighters to hit in the sport. -

http://www.fightmetric.com/blog/2009/01/fedor-emelianenko-vs-lyoto-machida.html

I am no know it all, but I was about to say you have been smoking some good stuff Chork.

You all need to forget about Fedor vs Overeem and Barnett. Won't ever happen. Fedor is the p4p goat and needs to win a few in SF and hurry to the UFC or I fear exactly what Wolfy said in the thread earlier.
Muayjitsu....c'mon man. You didn't just say all that did you?

I fear that many hardcore MMA fans are holding on to our legends of the sport. GOAT yes he is. But MMA is steadily progressing and it will pass Fedor whether we like it or not. Before this fight about 80% of people on here picked Nog now he is suddenly slow and on the decline. He is the same fighter he was just the new breed of fighters caught up and are passing him.

Even though Fedor would still be recognized as the best HW in reality (if he stayed unbeaten), if Brock was to beat the Carwin/Mir winner or Cain, I could see him jumping Fedor in some rankings, def if he beat both, same goes for Cain if he beat Brock.

I personally would need Fedor to lose while Brock or Cain got another win to move Fedor from #1.

muayjitsu wrote:

I fear that many hardcore MMA fans are holding on to our legends of the sport. GOAT yes he is. But MMA is steadily progressing and it will pass Fedor whether we like it or not. Before this fight about 80% of people on here picked Nog now he is suddenly slow and on the decline. He is the same fighter he was just the new breed of fighters caught up and are passing him.

Feodr hasn't been beaten to a pulp in half of his fights like Nog.

Crazy to me that people are willing to let Mousasi an up and comer to be 3 on these rankings on here, but they are unwilling to even begin to say fedor could move down and that cain is at least 2 or 3.

Fedor is #1 until he loses which isn't going to happen in Strikeforce but could possibly happen if he comes to the UFC