Are "freakshows" good for MMA?

What defines a freakshow is subjective. 2008's freakshow is today's HW champion. 2008's HW champion is half of today's geezer battle freakshow. But are the Kimbos, Lesnars(ya ya, he's legit now sure), Walkers, Lashleys, HMCs and Sapps of the world good or bad for the sport?

I have classically argued against them outside of Japan, but in recent times I have changed my minds. Tony Kornheiser will hate MMA regardless, and I don't think the "human cockfighting" faction gains or loses any support by who is fighting. It is the way they fight. People hate MMA because of the grappling, kicking and tactics that people who have been raised on boxing may fight classically "dirty".

Freakshows are good for the sport, they bring eyes, and the legitimate merits of the sport do the rest. MMA is about thrills and action.










Unless of course that freakshow walks in, loses a fight, but gets handed a title shot anyway, wins, and is then protected, nearly dies, then bashes an entire country based on a boondocks hospital.

I actually have no problem with them as long as they are not fixed.

Got to be honest, not a fan of the freakshows. Although, my dislike is related to the fighters which make up some of those freakshows. I don't like the Canseco's or Walker's of the freakshow side of MMA. It has little appeal to me, and can actually end up taking some legitimacy from MMA. Kimbo is along these lines, but to a lesser extent, than say the fighters mentioned previously. Sapp would be in the Kimbo category. Guys like Brock and Lashely although Pro Wresters, had/have an extensive wrestling backround so I'd think they aren't even freakshows really.

yea not a fan of freakshow fight. There are too many good fighters who are snubbed the chance they deserve because some asshole who got popular by doing something other than mma thinks they can jump in and steal some more camera time on tv and get there name popular again.

But i dont consider Brock Lesnar or Bobby Lashley to be part of the freakshow. They are legit based on thier college wrestling careers.

Kimbo is a real fighter now. Alexander being crappy or not, is a legit fighter with legit top ten wins.

If he beats meathead, I wouldn't consider him a freakshow anymore.

THey are no worse than Butterbean and Mickey Rourke were for boxing
we cant block out people that are willing to fight
if they are serious let them

canseco on the other hand doesnt look serious but whatever its his brain

Don't mind freakshows at all, keep them in their place though. My fav fight all time was a freakshow, Nog vs Sapp

I too would watch the freakshow, because there is always the mystery of the unknown and you gotta see how they handle the event. Walker had no problems, because they gave him a can. Canseco didn't look so hot because they gave him a can with too much power and some actual experience (honestly, I think Jose' would have taken him, if they had just let him keep his bat).

Lesnar was actually 2-1 before he fought Randy and as DW said "It may not be fair to the other fighters, but I want o put on fights people want to see."

as long as they keep them to a minimum and entertaining.

Im not a big fan of the freakshow fights. Walkers fight last week was a jokeand I didnt find it very intertaining at all. Jose stinks also. Wolf give up the Brock didnt deserve a shot talk cause to be honest he might not have deserved it but he did take the opportunity and ran with it. As bad as u hate it he is the class of the HW division in the UFC.

Let Jose Canseco fight someone like Anderson Silva and lets see how bad he really wants to fight in pro MMA.

NoRegret wrote:

Let Jose Canseco fight someone like Anderson Silva and lets see how bad he really wants to fight in pro MMA.

Um I don't see why he'd ever take that fight. And if he didn't I wouldn't care. He doesn't want to fight pro MMA against real fighters, and why would he. He wants to fight Hershal, a guy who he'd have a chance against and a guy that makes sense for his career. It would be a sort of sports world bragging rights fight.

I don't see it as offensive as some for a guy to want to test himself against similar opponents. I don't think you need to want to fight the real life Shang Tsung to fight MMA against Hershal Walker legitimately.

I got no beef Jose. haters gonna hate.

Wolfy, you're a moron. 'nuff said.

I was kidding about him actually facing Anderson Silva you dolt.

But in all seriousness, I dont want to watch an MMA fight with a guy who isnt serious about MMA...so if he's serious about it, put him in the ring with someone that can tear his ass up so he can prove it.

Oh wait, I dont want to get in an argument with Wolfy because he knows everything and only his opinions are the only correct ones!

Sorry guys I fucked that one up!

Freakshows have their place, but their place is not on a main card. The idea that Herschel Walker pushed Jay Hieron and Joe Riggs off the card is embarrassing to the sport. Freakshows are what make casual media think that mma fighters aren't real athletes or professionals, cause they say, "hey, 47 year old Herschel Walker can do it, how hard can it be and how much skill does it really take?" In my office, everyone was talking about Herschel's upcoming fight at lunch and cracking jokes about what a ridiculous sport it is, that you don't see guys like this in boxing or any other sport. Just my 2 cents.

Also, no one who follows collegiate wrestling thought Lesnar was a freakshow. Only those who had no clue about his background, athleticism and learning curve thought that. They were the same people who laughed and said Lesnar had no chance at beating Couture, while those who knew, thought Couture had no chance of beating Lesnar.

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I wasn't serious when I said I want to see him fight a real fighter to see if he really wants to fight in MMA. That said, in all seriousness I want to see him fight a real fighter to see if he really wants to fight MMA. I understand that's actually the same thing really but you need to understand I'm cumshitting retard and my mother abused meth, alcohol and cough syrup during the majority of my formative years and her pregancy. I forgive her though, because the range in ethnicities of all the different "uncles" and "stepdads" I've had exposed me to a lot of different types of people, opening my mind. Wolfy, youre a moron and a jerk. Nuff said!11 Dolt!

Also, LOL @ noregret negging me in my main topic out of spite. What did I do to him recently? He is more overtly whiney and asshurt than usual.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Also, LOL @ noregret negging me in my main topic out of spite. What did I do to him recently? He is more overtly whiney and asshurt than usual.

I didnt neg you. If I did, I would admit to it.

Im usually the one giving you positive reps if you make at least a funny post.