Dana White hooked Shogun up following loss to Machida

http://www.mmanews.com/ufc/Dana-White-Hooked-Shogun-Up-Following-Loss-To-Machida.html

The above link is to part of an article by esquire.com (Full Dana White article here) about Dana White giving Shogun a bonus because he didn't agree with his decision loss to Machida. I just don't get it. A bonus for not finishing a fight, much less for losing. I just don't get it.

nice find he deserved it regardless

The fuck he deserved it. Machida was never close to in trouble. Shogun was the only rocked one. I could easily see the fight being scored 3-2 Machida.

Shogun, do something besides kick his leg partner.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

The fuck he deserved it. Machida was never close to in trouble. Shogun was the only rocked one. I could easily see the fight being scored 3-2 Machida.

Shogun, do something besides kick his leg partner.

Exactly what I thought.

ram_escandon wrote:

http://www.mmanews.com/ufc/Dana-White-Hooked-Shogun-Up-Following-Loss-To-Machida.html

The above link is to part of an article by esquire.com (Full Dana White article here) about Dana White giving Shogun a bonus because he didn't agree with his decision loss to Machida. I just don't get it. A bonus for not finishing a fight, much less for losing. I just don't get it.

Shogun probably missed out on a pretty large win bonus because the judges messed up. So Dana decided to help the guy out. Pretty cool thing if you ask me.

Did Page get a bonus for losing a title on an equally controversial fight?

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Did Page get a bonus for losing a title on an equally controversial fight?

He should have cause he beat forrest the same way Shogun beat Machida.

No Forrest clearly won

Nah I had Page, and a draw if u give Forrest an undeserving 10-8 2nd, a rematch would end with Forrest getting brutally Ko'd regardless. But no need to start this again.

To me, Shogun should've won his fight, so I can understand the win bonus. Forrest Griffin also should've won his fight, so I don't know why that was brought up. What's with people undervaluing kicks?

Dana did what he thought was right. Why is that surprising?

GDPofDRC wrote:

Dana did what he thought was right. Why is that surprising?

It isn't surprising. I just don't understand it. When that fight was over, I couldn't decided who had won because neither one did enough to prove that they did. So, naturally, the champ stays the champ. You have to beat the champ to become the champ. And then for Dana to go and give one fighter a bonus with a fight that was that close? And he lost! I just don't get it.

ram_escandon wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

Dana did what he thought was right. Why is that surprising?

It isn't surprising. I just don't understand it. When that fight was over, I couldn't decided who had won because neither one did enough to prove that they did. So, naturally, the champ stays the champ. You have to beat the champ to become the champ. And then for Dana to go and give one fighter a bonus with a fight that was that close? And he lost! I just don't get it.

Don't act so damn surprised. Dana, Joe Rogan, 59% Tatame magazine (Brazilian), 80% on MMA Junkie, and tons more all thbought Shogun won. You are the minority.

Farmer1906 wrote:

ram_escandon wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

Dana did what he thought was right. Why is that surprising?

It isn't surprising. I just don't understand it. When that fight was over, I couldn't decided who had won because neither one did enough to prove that they did. So, naturally, the champ stays the champ. You have to beat the champ to become the champ. And then for Dana to go and give one fighter a bonus with a fight that was that close? And he lost! I just don't get it.

Don't act so damn surprised. Dana, Joe Rogan, 59% Tatame magazine (Brazilian), 80% on MMA Junkie, and tons more all thbought Shogun won. You are the minority.

And what were the #'s on Vera vs Randy?

Dana can do whatever he wants, but it would be nice if he showed some consistency and paid the losers of every controversial fight a bonus.

Vera didn't deserve shit for that performance against Randy. It was pathetic

bobbitt15 wrote:

Vera didn't deserve shit for that performance against Randy. It was pathetic

Whatever, but when I turned that fight off so as to watch the Pac Man fight, everyone in the room figured Vera won. I didn't know till a couple days later while reading this forum that Randy had actually won.

Matt Hamill must have gotten cochlear implants, a new Jag, and a night with all three ring bitches for his fight with Bisping.

Wolf ur right about that lol. Hammill got so screwed it was pathetic.

Farmer1906 wrote:

ram_escandon wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

Dana did what he thought was right. Why is that surprising?

It isn't surprising. I just don't understand it. When that fight was over, I couldn't decided who had won because neither one did enough to prove that they did. So, naturally, the champ stays the champ. You have to beat the champ to become the champ. And then for Dana to go and give one fighter a bonus with a fight that was that close? And he lost! I just don't get it.

Don't act so damn surprised. Dana, Joe Rogan, 59% Tatame magazine (Brazilian), 80% on MMA Junkie, and tons more all thbought Shogun won. You are the minority.

Are you illiterate? The very first thing I said is that I'm not surprised by it. I am never surprised by how stupid some people are. What I'm saying is, that neither one of these fighters deserved any type of bonus because they didn't do shit to prove that they won. By saying that Machida should've kept the title after that fight, I am not exactly taking his side. All I'm saying is, that if the challenger doesn't do enough to show he won, then naturally the champ stays the champ. I hate Machida for his boring ass style, and would've preferred to have seen Shogun win in a convincing and unquestionable fashion. But, that's not what happened. In my honest opinion, the fight should've been deemed a draw, Machida stripped of his title, and then still have a rematch for them with the winner gaining a vacant belt. But, I know that's unrealistic.

All that said, I hope the second fight is much better, and I hope Shogun wins by knockout.

ram_escandon wrote:

Farmer1906 wrote:

ram_escandon wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

Dana did what he thought was right. Why is that surprising?

It isn't surprising. I just don't understand it. When that fight was over, I couldn't decided who had won because neither one did enough to prove that they did. So, naturally, the champ stays the champ. You have to beat the champ to become the champ. And then for Dana to go and give one fighter a bonus with a fight that was that close? And he lost! I just don't get it.

Don't act so damn surprised. Dana, Joe Rogan, 59% Tatame magazine (Brazilian), 80% on MMA Junkie, and tons more all thbought Shogun won. You are the minority.

Are you illiterate? The very first thing I said is that I'm not surprised by it. I am never surprised by how stupid some people are. What I'm saying is, that neither one of these fighters deserved any type of bonus because they didn't do shit to prove that they won. By saying that Machida should've kept the title after that fight, I am not exactly taking his side. All I'm saying is, that if the challenger doesn't do enough to show he won, then naturally the champ stays the champ. I hate Machida for his boring ass style, and would've preferred to have seen Shogun win in a convincing and unquestionable fashion. But, that's not what happened. In my honest opinion, the fight should've been deemed a draw, Machida stripped of his title, and then still have a rematch for them with the winner gaining a vacant belt. But, I know that's unrealistic.

All that said, I hope the second fight is much better, and I hope Shogun wins by knockout.

Can u really call Machidas style boring?? In his last few fights he has KOed Thiago Silva and rashad and was in a very entertaining fight with Shogun. Tough to call him boring.

Up until those two fights, he was very boring. Why do you think Dana never gave him a shot before that? He knew he had to do well to get to the belt, so he knocked out Silva. He wanted the belt badly, so he knocked out Rashad. After those two fights, I thought he would be an entertaining champ, and he became one of my favorite fighters, for just about a second, though. Because, then he went and pulled the shit he pulled with Shogun, just playing it safe and going back to that obnoxious don't-get-hit and slip-in-baby-punches-just-to-win-safely-by-points style.

I thought he fought smart vs Shogun by not taking a ton of chances. Shogun may have hit him with something big with the explosiveness he has. I will agree he wasnt the most entertaining fighter before the Silva fight but I thought he was just being cautious and working his way up the ladder. I dont think he will ever be mistaken for Wandy or Chuck in there primes as far as excitement goes but I dont think he is boring either.