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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:28 pm | |
| Following December's UFC 107 event in Memphis, Tenn., in which Toney tracked down White to discuss a potential fight in the UFC, the pro boxer showed up again at Saturday night's UFC 108 event in Las Vegas. Toney jokingly said the next spot at which he would appear would be White's private residence unless the fiery exec gave the boxer a chance to compete in the octagon.
White said Toney had earned at least an appointment to talk.
And before everyone freaks out about him being 41 and saying he's doing the same thing as SF here is what DW had to say about that part. But after publicly blasting rival promotion Strikeforce for signing 47-year-old former NFL great Herschel Walker for his professional MMA debut later this month, could White really justify the signing of Toney?
"Listen, let me tell you what: I got blasted this week? Let me make this fight (with Toney)," White said. "That will get me [expletive] blasted. I'm the first guy out there going, 'This is a [expletive] freak show. Who would put on a fight like this?' I'm the first guy that would say that. I'm always saying it when freak shows happen.
"I don't know what's going to happen."http://mmajunkie.com/news/17410/dana-white-says-hell-meet-with-james-toney-is-boxing-champ-ufc-bound.mma?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mmajunkie+%28MMAjunkie.com+Feed%29&utm_content=Twitter | |
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taylorfleig Orange Belt
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| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:48 pm | |
| Toney is a professional boxer, that alone makes him more qualified than Walker. Teach him some take down defense and he might be decent at it. James probably realizes he isn't getting any more title shots in boxing, so he wants to try mma. | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:51 pm | |
| I think a real boxing talent comes in and dominates in MMA. Toney may be older, but I think he can do some damage in the HW division. | |
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Ninja Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Anyone with the last name Rua or Emelianenko and Uncle Creepy Posts : 3831 Join date : 2009-07-15
| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:53 pm | |
| Toney doesn't deserve to be in the UFC. | |
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taylorfleig Orange Belt
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| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:01 pm | |
| I don't know the best boxing talents are going to stay with boxing because they can make more money boxing. However a solid boxer who couldn't compete with the best might be able to do some damage in the UFC. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:19 pm | |
| I love Toney but he may be biting off more than he can chew. He is looking for a payday and figures try MMA and its not right. I would like to see him fight but not in UFC. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:10 pm | |
| I'm not as hardline as others on this kind of stuff anymore. I mean, BROCK fucking LESNAR is our "champ" right, and MARK COLEMAN is facing RANDY COUTURE in a main event.
Lets keep things in perspective here. Kimbo is in the UFC and will soon be co-headling PPVs. Toney has an established pro fighting back ground, and brings eyeballs. Stick him in there with the Headhunter and see what happens. Kimbo even. That would be perfect honestly.
They handed a title shot to a pro wrestler with a penis tat, and built a reality show around Kimbo Slice, I don't think White has any room to talk about freakshows and I don't think we can sit here and dictate who "deserves" to be in or not. White certianly can't talk about age anymore when he has two dinosaurs who would, if we're real about this, be KO'd brutally by anyone in the top ten headlining a card.
He brings eye balls to the screen. Fuck it. Let him in. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:22 pm | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- I think a real boxing talent comes in and dominates in MMA. Toney may be older, but I think he can do some damage in the HW division.
Really? | |
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redvexx8 Green Belt
Posts : 690 Join date : 2009-10-01 Location : ATL
| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:26 pm | |
| Put him in there with Kongo or Pat Barry. Toney is gonna want a LOT of money though and that will be the main set back. Actually JT has lost a lot of weight lately he could make 205. Put him in there Houston and he could get a win.
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:27 pm | |
| Any Boxer would be exposed on the ground by the top fighters, they can probably knock out a few scrubs though | |
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LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:28 pm | |
| ^^^^^That, but I'd still take em don't get me wrong, he was a Champ before, and could make some fun fights with other strikers | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:30 pm | |
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Bigs03 Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:07 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- I'm not as hardline as others on this kind of stuff anymore. I mean, BROCK fucking LESNAR is our "champ" right, and MARK COLEMAN is facing RANDY COUTURE in a main event.
Lets keep things in perspective here. Kimbo is in the UFC and will soon be co-headling PPVs. Toney has an established pro fighting back ground, and brings eyeballs. Stick him in there with the Headhunter and see what happens. Kimbo even. That would be perfect honestly.
They handed a title shot to a pro wrestler with a penis tat, and built a reality show around Kimbo Slice, I don't think White has any room to talk about freakshows and I don't think we can sit here and dictate who "deserves" to be in or not. White certianly can't talk about age anymore when he has two dinosaurs who would, if we're real about this, be KO'd brutally by anyone in the top ten headlining a card.
He brings eye balls to the screen. Fuck it. Let him in. Yes! | |
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redvexx8 Green Belt
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| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:49 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:57 pm | |
| James Toney is fat,shot and slurs his words . Throwing him into an MMA fight would be a disaster. |
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SOKO Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:42 am | |
| toney will be shocked when he does all this work to get taken down at will and payed a whole wopping 30k if he is lucky I dont see dana paying him a whole lot but more than most..If he could learn some take down defense he will have a good shot against most. Toney vs duffee make it happen. or toney vs JDS. | |
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ohiovol62 Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:30 am | |
| I'm with Wolfy here. Let him in. Who cares? If he's ok, he's more depth in a weak division. If he gets shit canned, atleast it'll be fun to watch. lol | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:31 am | |
| Lol just thinking about this makes me laugh. Toney was fat and unmotivated for the last who knows how many of his fights. | |
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| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:44 am | |
| You know it's time to retire when Samuel Peter outboxes you. |
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LTFG Brown Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Wolfy Posts : 2578 Join date : 2009-07-20 Age : 113 Location : Bend, OR.
| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:44 pm | |
| I could see Dana signing him and putting him in the five spot on a PPV simply to expose him against a mid level HW with better than average ground game to end him half way through the first round...
That would end the boxer in MMA debate about as quickly as tossing Chuck Liddell into a ring against BJ Flores would end the MMAer in boxing debate... Honestly, I'm all for either happening... | |
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EliteAcidBurn Green Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : GSP Posts : 515 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 48 Location : Halifax,Nova Scotia
| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:56 pm | |
| Am i the only one who thinks he will get freaking destroyed and has no buisness in UFC let alone MMA at all | |
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LTFG Brown Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Wolfy Posts : 2578 Join date : 2009-07-20 Age : 113 Location : Bend, OR.
| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:00 pm | |
| Nah, I got your back Elite... That's why I said give him a fight against a mid level talent with sufficient ground game to expose him. I guarantee a hungry kid with real aspirations isn't going to go out and get Sylvia'd in a fight like this... | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:49 pm | |
| Kimbo has already beaten a beyond his years boxer in Mercer. Toney is a more skilled fighter, but he has a lot less pop then Mercer does. guy didn't even turn heavyweight until way late in his career.
I don't see a worthwhile name that toney could beat. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:11 pm | |
| Ya, even the much criticized Kongo could take him down and omaplata him instantly. Still, sticking him in with someone who digs standing and trading is exactly the kind of fights Dana loves anyway.
*Two fat guys with no cardio flail rock em sock em shots over and over*
Dana : "OH MAN WHAT A FUCKING FIGHT THIS FUCKING RULES" | |
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redvexx8 Green Belt
Posts : 690 Join date : 2009-10-01 Location : ATL
| Subject: Re: James Toney crashes 108 press conference Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:16 pm | |
| He would get taken down the moment he tried that philly shell shoulder roll. | |
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