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PostSubject: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyMon Jan 04, 2010 11:36 pm

Bad Idea? Good idea?
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyMon Jan 04, 2010 11:46 pm

It would go like Kimbo vs Mercer.
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyMon Jan 04, 2010 11:48 pm

Bad Idea, Toney has power to crush a skull and kimbo moves straight ahead with a little repetitive slip and IMO does not have one punch sleepy time power. If however kimbos knee is improved he does have the edge presumably in every other department besides striking distance hand striking ,cardio and footwork
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyMon Jan 04, 2010 11:51 pm

Bad idea in my opion. I dont want to see James toney fight Kimbo at all. In the street yeah but not in the octagon. James has no MMA experience and although Kimbo doesnt have a great ground game I bet he is working on it everyday. James is looking for a payday and when Kimbo won there would be a shit load of excuses from toney. Why waste the time. Dana should sign Seth to fight Kimbo in the rematch.
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 12:43 am

sure, go for it, why not? They signed Kimbo for the sole reason of drawing in non traditional MMA fans, so a Toney Kimbo matchup fits that bill perfectly. And it's one of the few UFC hwt matchups that Kimbo could win.

It further's the "Dana is a hypocritical clown" idea, but that boat has plenty of cargo already anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 12:47 am

I think he'd KO Kimbo
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 12:54 am

If it stayed on the feet Toney would stop him
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 12:58 am

Kimbo would take James down and GNP him.
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 1:02 am

Good idea. Kimbo via kimura round 1.
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 1:04 am

oggy420 wrote:
Good idea. Kimbo via kimura round 1.

LOL I was thinking that also.
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 1:45 am

I just think it would be fun, get attention, and oh ya fun. hahaha Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 4:25 am

Remember, Kimbo choked out Mercer in his first ever MMA bout. Don't write off Slice just yet.

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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 9:20 am

tolivendiewithLA wrote:
I think he'd KO Kimbo

To say the least.
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 9:42 am

MMA fans would watch it. Boxing fans would watch it. Casual Kimbo fans would wanna see it. It would be a big draw and the stock of the loser would not be affected.

Good idea
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 11:04 am

toney would eat kimbos punches for lunch with no gloves and I cant say the same for kimbo after the seth fight.
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 2:09 pm

Can't call it yet. Who is training Toney, that's all that matters. Kimbo would go lights out in the stand up but what kind of sprawl and grapple skill could Toney pick up on the way to a fight like that. For Kimbo, this is the best kind of fight he can be in. He has no gas tank and is probably one of if not the least talented mixed martial artist on the entire UFC rooster.
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 3:56 pm

What Heavyweight has Toney KO'd in boxing ?
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 3:58 pm

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What Heavyweight has Toney KO'd in boxing ?



Evander Holyfield & Matthew Greer
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 4:38 pm

Don't under estimate what leg kicks, head kicks, knees, the threat of takedowns, 40 year old reflexes and chin, and the differences in defense and glove sizes between pure boxing and MMA can do to a former world champion boxer's ability to avoid the KO.

I don't think it would be as big of a shock as some to see an MMA fighter KO a boxer in MMA, just like I don't think it would be a shock to see Usain Bolt beat in a 40 yard dash by an AP or Chris Johnson in football pads, cleats and a helment on grass.
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 5:00 pm

I agree with Ninja... Unless Toney has some BJJ or wrestling background that has been kept from the world, he'll get beat in ugly fashion on the ground...
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 5:04 pm

James Toney has been talking about doing MMA since at least 2007 though. Ryan Hockensmith predicted he would join MMA and make waves in a "what to expect in 2008" article. This indicates he may have been training now for several years in fighting. This is another reason I wouldn't mind seeing what he has.
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 5:24 pm

Right. Who does he work with is worth interest if he is serious.
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 8:53 pm

Another question, Who will UFC put up against Kimbo next? What options are there really. Headhunter, Yvel, Gromley, Hague, Tuchscherer, or another LHW. I will be surprised if it is Toney. I hope it's Buentello. Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 9:31 pm

The UFC could unearth a nobody with an 3-0 record fighting fattys in a local circut or give him another shot vet. Honestly, Stephan Bonnar might be a good choice.
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PostSubject: Re: James Toney vs Kimbo   James Toney vs Kimbo EmptyWed Jan 06, 2010 3:39 pm

That's funny. Bonnar was like the first and only LHW I was thinking of when I made that above post.
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