Do You Think James Toney Will Make 205

that is the weight he is fighting Randy Couture at

anyone think James can get to 205 or even close?

he should. I still want to see the Jirov rematch at 200.

I think so. He was 217 in his last fight and was still tubby. If he reigns in his eating disorder it should be no problem.

this is a shame..a fighter with so much talent that allowed himself to be overweight to many times..dispite that he still held his own with so many top fighters...

so no 215 catch weight

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

I think so. He was 217 in his last fight and was still tubby. If he reigns in his eating disorder it should be no problem.

That's a great video of James Toney. I fucking love that guy! LOL

ya dmar agree, think what he would have done in shape

especially vs Jones Jr

Birdofthad wrote:

ya dmar agree, think what he would have done in shape

especially vs Jones Jr

Umm he still would've lost.Nobody 168 and down ever beats prime Jones

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

I think so. He was 217 in his last fight and was still tubby. If he reigns in his eating disorder it should be no problem.

I love that video. The icing on the cake is " Don King kiss my ass."

Subzero1983 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

ya dmar agree, think what he would have done in shape

especially vs Jones Jr

Umm he still would've lost.Nobody 168 and down ever beats prime Jones

look Im not saying Toney beats him

but Toney dropped 30+ pounds 3 days before the fight using diaretics

I atleast want to see a competitive Toney not a totally drained one

and keep telling yourself that on the 168 and Jones thing

Subzero1983 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

ya dmar agree, think what he would have done in shape

especially vs Jones Jr

Umm he still would've lost.Nobody 168 and down ever beats prime Jones

I think he would have beaten them all but it would have been nice if he actually proved it.

bird toney lost WHAT 30 pounds in only 3 days before the fight..even if it was a week before the fight thats far to much...this is something i never realized..if this is true especialy the 3 days part he beats jones if he didnt have a problem like that...the weight loss of that much in that short of a time effects almost everything...it most certainly affects his power by the weakend condition as well as endurance ...when your not at your natural endurence your relexes reflect that..it may not at times be noticed by the fans watching the fight but its certainly noticed by the fighter...
this takes away much in the jones win for he should of stoped toney under that big handicap..theres no excuse for that if your that good....toney is one id consider a great fighter..not in the class of a ATG cause there is a differnce..but non the less a great one...i would have to consider toney is one who in his day had a excellent chin..the 35 pounds or more of flab on his body did not make his chin any stronger..yet he fought heavies who did have a real punch....realizing the huge handicap he spoted jones makes me think if that wasnt an issue he would of won...